Dear Wendy
Dear Wendy

CT. School Shooting

I was offline and away from news sources for a couple of hours, so only just now hearing about the school shooting this morning. My heart goes out to everyone affected. Going to go hug Jackson extra tight right now.

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  • bittergaymark

    bittergaymark December 14, 2012, 2:23 pm

    One thing I’ll say about humanity, is that we truly have no bounds or limits to our depravity. Somehow, we just keep on getting worse and worse. All the while, wringing our hands and doing absolutely NOTHING about it.

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    • FireStar

      FireStar December 14, 2012, 2:31 pm

      Things are being done. This week makes it legal to carry concealed weapons in all fifty states.

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      • bittergaymark

        bittergaymark December 14, 2012, 2:37 pm

        Great! That will fucking solve everything. Hell, lets arm all the kids. A guns for every 5 year old! How the FUCK would that have done jack shit in this case?

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 2:43 pm

        Sorry – it appears my contempt for the recent change in laws isn’t apparent in type.

        But to answer your questions – how much do you want to bet me someone will come out and say this tragedy could have been prevented if a teacher had a gun?

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      • bittergaymark

        bittergaymark December 14, 2012, 2:47 pm

        Whew… Sorry, I snapped at you… But I have already read such things on Facebook… The peril of friending high school classmates in red states.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 2:56 pm

        No problem. Given my mood, I might have snapped too if I thought someone was advocating for the NRA today of all days.

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      • JK

        JK December 14, 2012, 2:51 pm

        I already read that it could have been prevented by prayer in school. And also that it was because it was a state that voted for Obama, so I´m willing to bet you´re right Firestar.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 3:00 pm

        Y’know – I want there to be a hell. I want there to be a hell that those very same people believe in – with fire and brimstone and endless agony. Because if your first reaction is to make the mass murder of children about who you voted for… then as far as I’m concerned you’ve earned your place in that hell.

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      • JK

        JK December 14, 2012, 3:06 pm

        You are so right. I mean these same religious fuckers tell me my kids are going to hell for not being baptized! Surely child murderers deserve a hell of a lot more than that

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        GatorGirl December 14, 2012, 4:00 pm

        Yeah, that theory makes me so so mad. I can be a good person every day of my life, but never had a “formal” baptism so I’m going to hell. But a criminal who had a water baptism and repents just before dealth gets to go to heaven? F that.

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      • Heather

        Heather December 14, 2012, 6:10 pm

        People are already saying it (on my Facebook, it’s so frustrating). It’s so senseless, and where to we even begin, as a collective, to address this problem? Do we make gun laws stricter? More relaxed? Do we need to address the stigmatization of those with mental health issues?

        At the end of the day, innocent people and children were slaughtered. And I try so much to withhold hatred for people who do these kinds of things, but this time I can’t help it. And that son of a bitch killed himself, a coward who couldn’t face the consequences of his actions and will never have to look into the eyes of the parents of the children he killed. His death was an easy way out. And he left behind a trail of shattered hearts and destroyed lives.

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        Mara December 14, 2012, 10:10 pm

        Ha! Heard that at work today from a few patients and coworkers! And I live in Wisconsin…

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    • honeybeegood

      honeybeegood December 14, 2012, 3:08 pm

      Sadly we live in a culture that celebrates violence and hate. Think about how often people use the term “liberal” as an insult- not because the individual is an actual liberal with a belief in strong social programs etc, but because that person dares to not be a bigot. Our tv shows display shooting, explosions, and meth production, but heaven forbid we show a tit. I wish guns were the problem, but I don’t think they are. Timothy McVeigh didn’t shoot anyone.

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      • katie

        katie December 14, 2012, 3:15 pm

        WHS.

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      • Diablo

        Diablo December 14, 2012, 3:19 pm

        Couldn’t agree more that we live in a culture that celebrates violence and desensitization. And it begins with young kids, who we all know are playing “adult” video games full of splatter and gore. All media celebrate the righteousness of violence when it is done by “good” people to “bad” people.

        But guns are a part of the problem. Access to handguns and assault weapons means that any pinhead can get them and use them for whatever comes into their head. People are the problem, but guns are a big part of the machinery that enables that problem.

        So what should we do? You can’t prevent people from being crazy or having crazy ideas. All I’ve ever been able to think of is that we should all do some little bit of work to make sure we leave the world a better place. Consider volunteering somewhere, or donating to a charity that helps kids, or victims, or any other good work that will help the world be a better place. Then do it again. Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men (and women) do nothing. So do something, everyone.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 3:28 pm

        I agree with you about the perils of a culture that celebrates violence. But I don’t know that guns aren’t the problem – or at least a significant part of it. McVeigh was a terrorist wanting to make a political statement and destroy federal property as well as take federal employee lives. How many die annually in the United States because of terrorism vs. as victims of gun violence? At some point you have to look at how people are being killed. Can you kill with other things? Sure. But how effectively? How easily? There was an attack on an elementary school in China last week. The attacker used a knife. 22 children were injured. Horrible. But none died.

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        lemongrass December 14, 2012, 10:43 pm

        “heaven forbid we show a tit”- Let alone one that’s feeding a child!

        I don’t think that the reason this man killed these innocent people was because he had access to guns. I think guns sure as hell made it easier though. Nobody needs an assault rifle or a semi-automatic.

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    lemongrass December 14, 2012, 2:28 pm

    My heart goes out to those families and everyone involved. I can’t understand how this could happen. It is possibly the most heartbreaking, disgusting event I’ve ever heard of.

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    • bittergaymark

      bittergaymark December 14, 2012, 2:30 pm

      It happens because it is a about as easy to buy a gun in most states as it is to go to the drive thru at Micky Dee’s….

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      • SweetsAndBeats

        SweetsAndBeats December 14, 2012, 10:13 pm

        It did not happen because of ease of access. This was in Connecticut, with some of the strictest gun laws in the States, and this was not just a random act of violence… He specifically went to the school his mother was employed by. It’s also worth mentioning that today, in the Hunan province, another man injured 22 children in a school with a knife. Luckily none of them were killed, but the fact remains the same that there will always be mentally ill individuals who will go to any lengths to cause harm to others. The trick is not to restrict the liberties of everyone, but to provide the necessary resources to mentally ill individuals so that they can stabilize or, at the very least, the only person they kill is themselves (if it comes to that).

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      • bittergaymark

        bittergaymark December 14, 2012, 11:47 pm

        Nope. Sorry. I no longer believe that we are a culture that can carry guns. At least not assault rifles. I mean, c’mon. Has there ever even been one example of an assault rifle “saving” the day? I think not. Go ahead and name my even just ONE example and I shall be thoroughly impressed.

        Growing up, in the course of my ENTIRE childhood, I remember a grand TOTAL of three mass shootings. Three. Just three. And that’s actually a real stretch. There was the famous one at a fast food joint, and that’s really the only one I remember.

        We’ve now already had TWO this fucking week.

        And yet many still think that carrying guns is the answer. Whatever. Clearly, we a no longer a society that deserves that privilege. And as long as we demand it, we shall continue to bury our children.

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      • SweetsAndBeats

        SweetsAndBeats December 15, 2012, 12:03 am

        I am ambivalent on the liberty of our citizens to carry semi-automatic weapons. On one hand, I feel that we should be able to arm ourselves with anything that would adequately defend us against an actual military attack. On the other hand, there are virtually no other applicable situations where you’d need a clip to defend yourself. When I hear the phrase “gun control”, it sounds to me like trying to completely abolish our ability to bear arms, which I vehemently disagree with. I would much more easily agree with an extremely extensive process, in which psychological evaluations and mental health histories are looked into, to obtain semi-auto or full auto guns.

        As for the prevalence of shootings these days, I feel it is at least partly thanks to the contemporary notion that mentally ill people should have all the rights of a healthy individual. In example, my ex-boyfriend who attacked me and made plans to kill me two weeks ago is free to socialize and, probably, find his next victim. In the past, it was much more normal (and economically and legally easy) to put somebody in long-term in-patient care when they proved to be dangerous to themselves or others. People who displayed homicidal or suicidal tendencies were almost immediately removed from society. Now there seems to be this trend toward trying to acclimate the mentally ill in society before keeping them out of society for a long while. On one hand, I feel that every human being should have their rights until they definitively prove that they do not deserve them. On the other hand, there are many people (my ex included) who are obviously ticking time bombs. I feel that if we had more easy, affordable, and socially acceptable mental health treatment, that these incidents would happen far less frequently. They’ll never be completely eradicated, but minimization of such tragedies would definitely occur. I also feel like it’s worth mentioning that in addition to better access to mental health care, eliminating “gun free zones” (with the exception of government facilities) would dissuade many mass killers from targeting very vulnerable people… those gun free zones turn innocents into fish in a barrel.

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        Nadine December 15, 2012, 2:54 am

        But why do people just dismiss stricter gun laws? For crying out loud, America, I know you are at war, but that war is safely far away and in someone elses country! My country has a colonial and war-ish (SP?) background. My ancestors fought my other ancestors for land using muskets. We have lots of people who grew up hunting and using guns, as we have a huge area of wild bush that is home to game, as well as pests that need to be controlled. But we don’t have a gun massacre problem. Certainly there s crime. There is sometimes gun crime, and murder by gun. But these massacres that happen in america? They are a huge, controllable, tragic TREND. Maybe looking at all the ways to stop the growth of the trend is a better idea than some ideas about the mentally ill. Of course some mentally ill people kill. But they use guns to do it, and that is why it is so deadly.
        My heart goes out the victims, and I truly think an honest discussion about how much people are willing to protect their right to have guns over their right to have living children needs to happen.

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        Nadine December 15, 2012, 3:03 am

        I do not mean to be offensive. I just read through this, and it comes across as very judg-y. I’m sorry for that. I’m just trying to understand how someone can shoot children.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 15, 2012, 6:31 am

        The differences between the attack on the elementary school in China and the one in Ct. Is the weapon and the body count. A knife attack left zero dead. An attack using semi automatic weapons killed 26. It is dangerous to ascribe this to an issue of mental illness alone. Because the two components to this crime are who committed it and what he was able to do. The mentally ill are everywhere. Hell just plain old fashioned evil is everywhere. So if you lock up the mentally ill, what will you do with the evil? And which of the mentally ill will you lock up? Because lots of mass murderers have no history of violence. What then? Should ALL mentally ill now be the victims if a which hunt?

        So if the corralling of who would commit these acts – before they commit them – is Herculean then why not limit what they – or anyone – are able to do?

        Some one tell me WHY anyone needs automatic and semi automatic guns. Tell me the justifiable reason for NEEDING to fire off so many rounds so quickly. What must you hit so quickly? And why do YOU need to be armed with weaponry to defend against a military attack, personally? Which military is attacking you exactly? America already has a military you more than adequately arm. You have law enforcement your tax dollars pay for. How many have actually read the second amendment giving the absolute right to bear arms? Because it speaks to a well regulated militia acting in the security of the State. How many among you fit that description? Did the shooter yesterday? Did his mother, who purchased the guns?

        Exactly who has to die before something changes? Because if the answer isn’t 20 small children attending elementary school then I don’t know the answer to that question …and I fear for all of us.

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        Amanda December 15, 2012, 8:53 am

        WFSS

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        Eagle Eye December 15, 2012, 10:11 am

        Also, can i just point out, whose going to defend against the ENTIRE US ARMY with a couple of assault rifles, the government has f*cking bombs for Chrissake, ugh, I’m sorry I really find this argument about defending ourselves against the military to be really offensive, really, we’re going to to up against the ENIRE US ARMY with a couple of guns?
        No, guns much better adept as killing sprees than they are against the US Military, we need to have unbelievably strict gun laws and honestly, idk, idk, I just can’t deal with tragedies like this…

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      • MackenzieLee

        MackenzieLee December 17, 2012, 3:21 am

        I didn’t read this before I posted but that’s what I was thinking. If we’re trying to fight the us army then were is my right to nuclear weapons and bombs and grenade launchers? (sarcasm).

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      • MackenzieLee

        MackenzieLee December 17, 2012, 3:19 am

        I’m confused by what army we are supposedly fighting with these semi-automatic guns? If it’s some sort of rebellion/civil war within the United States a semiautomatic gun isn’t really that much of an advantage because there are tanks and bombs and all those other glorious things. Also I question the mental stability of someone who actually thinks they need to fight the government with their semi-automatic gun.

        Point is, most people I know who have guns have them for personal protection or hunting/sport shooting. In none of those cases is a semi-automatic gun necessary. I see no real reason they are still legal.

        I also find your comment that people who are suicidal should be “removed from society” beyond ignorant and offensive. Really? I can’t even take on how offensive that is. Mentally ill people need treatment yes, but locking them away sounds like what they did in the 1900s. People who are homicidal I can understand needing to be locked away and if there is any type of attempted murder they will be. The problem with these type of shootings is that the perpetrator is rarely a man like your ex who has planned something like this before

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    Sad December 14, 2012, 2:48 pm

    This is just so awful. Crazy violent people will always find ways to be crazy and violent, but can we, as a nation (USA), please prevent these people from obtaining guns? Clearly, federal background checks are not enough. A psychiatric examination with an additional fee would help prevent gun ownership by nutjobs. This is so awful. You have to be fucking insane to kill innocent children.

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    kerrycontrary December 14, 2012, 2:55 pm

    I have trouble processing things like this immediately, but this is very horrific and I can’t even imagine someone would kill a child. I know that mass killings of children are happening every day (Holla back atcha Syria), but it’s always more real when it’s in your own country.

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    Addie Pray December 14, 2012, 3:04 pm

    I’m disgusted by this news. I’m also disgusted by how I am just getting back to work. I can go on with my day. As if I’m not that surprised anymore when these things happen. What the fuck is happening?!?! How/why is this becoming something sick that just happens from time to time?!?!

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      Addie Pray December 14, 2012, 3:06 pm

      I remember when Columbine happened and everyone was frozen in shock/fear for days/weeks. Now? We’re getting used to it. That’s fucked up. Tuesday, an Oregon mall. This morning, an elementary school in Connecticut. Earlier this year, a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, a movie theater in Colorado, etc., etc., etc. – What the fuck what the fuck what the fuck?!

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        Taylor December 14, 2012, 3:09 pm

        Yep.

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        bethany December 14, 2012, 3:12 pm

        I always assumed Columbine was more significant to me because I was a senior in high school when it happened, so I identified with it… But I think you’re right. Over the span of +/-10 years, we’ve grown accustomed to this horrible culture where these things just happen. So sad 🙁

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        Classic December 14, 2012, 3:13 pm

        Exactly.

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        Amanda December 14, 2012, 3:15 pm

        What the fuck indeed. I’m so disgusted after reading about this. Why do some people kill children? It’s beyond awful and sick.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 3:16 pm

        Are we getting used to it? I hope not. I know I don’t feel any less shock or heartbreak today than I did when Columbine happened. Maybe more since many of the victims are 5-10 years old. I’ll be praying for these poor families while hugging the crap out of my kid today.

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        Addie Pray December 14, 2012, 3:22 pm

        Well, I remember with Columbine everything and everyone around me shut down. Now, I just heard this conversation in the breakroom:

        Someone: Did you hear about the shooting in Connecticut?
        Someone else: I did, it’s sick, those poor kids.
        Someone: I know, I’m heartbroken. Did you see Bob’s email about the closing documents.
        Someone else: I did, I’m going to forward you a redline so you can see the changes.
        Someone: Ok, cool. I’m hoping to cut out early today. Have a good weekend!

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        Addie Pray December 14, 2012, 3:24 pm

        ^ We are getting used to it. ^

        So I just wonder what it takes for us to REALLY make some changes to nip this in the bud (in the butt?)

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      • Lili

        Lili December 14, 2012, 3:30 pm

        Gun Control.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 3:34 pm

        Like what though? Prevent people from being crazy? Ban guns?
        I wish there was an answer. Maybe metal detectors would prevent this. Idk.

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        GatorGirl December 14, 2012, 3:37 pm

        CNN said there were metal detectors at the front doors. They don’t stop people from walking in and shooting.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 3:39 pm

        I hadn’t heard that.
        That’s the thing. If someone is so intent on killing, they will find a way. I can’t think of anything that could prevent these horrible things entirely. I’m sure if there was, it would be implemented already.

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        GatorGirl December 14, 2012, 3:57 pm

        I don’t know what the right answer is. But I do think that mental health plays in here somewhere. I don’t know much about the young man in this situation, as far as if he had a history of mental illness, but I know the movie theater shooter and the Virginia Tech shooter both had history of mental illness. And I’ve heard the Columbine boys had both had histories of mental illness. I don’t know what should be changed in the mental health industry, but I do think more public acceptance and de-stigmatizing the act of seeking out mental health care in our society could probably help a lot. If more people could just get their heads on straight, or have stricter mental health exams when buying a gun (or weapons)…

        Ugh.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 4:13 pm

        Yes, I think your ideas, coupled with others’, can lead to at the very least, a step in the right direction.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 3:40 pm

        That is too late down the chain of events. It has to start before people even get weapons. It has to start with the types of weapons people can get.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 3:49 pm

        I was just having a discussion about that with coworkers. So ban all weapons, I still think people will find a way. Or at least find a way to get their hands on illegal weapons. Still, even if it were harder to get them, I think there would be less of this. Idk though.

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      • FireStar

        FireStar December 14, 2012, 4:02 pm

        There has always been murder – from the inception of humanity there has been evil as well as good. So there is no fix to irradiate evil – there is a way to mitigate the carnage though. What If there were limits on the manufacture of automatic and semi-automatic weapons to restrict the distribution of them to military and law enforcement only. What if you stopped it at the source? What if it wasn’t so easy to get firearms – and the type of firearms that can go through hundreds of rounds in a matter of minutes – how many deaths could be avoided?

        I’m just so very, very angry.

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      • Lili

        Lili December 14, 2012, 4:28 pm

        UK has strict gun control laws (even some police officers don’t carry anything stronger than a taser!) and they don’t have the mass shootings we do. I can’t help but think guns are at least part of the problem here in the US. The other being a lack of affordable mental healthcare available.

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      • Diablo

        Diablo December 14, 2012, 3:36 pm

        Addie, what changes would we make to prevent this happening again? Gun laws? Searching all schoolkids? We already live in a society driven by fear. I think fear is what makes the US cling so tightly to the right to bear arms, when the world would be a better place if nobody bore any type of arms?

        I sympathize with the sentiment, but people can always go crazy. Violence can always erupt. In my comment above, I suggest everybody find something good to do to counteract the bad stuff, but I also understand that that is an infantile response in a sense, since it doesn’t address the causes of this tragedy at all. But I honestly don’t know what to do.

        In Canada, where most guns are illegal, and everyone needs documentation to own any gun, there is a lot less gun related violence, but even so last week we observed a vigil for the victims of the Ecole Polytechnique killings in Montreal in 89. In my town, a typical requirement for gang initiation is a murder. Sometimes they kill other gang members, but sometimes they just pick some random slob and murder him.

        Sorry, this isn’t so much directed at your comment, but just to express frustration that there doesn’t seem to be a way to prevent things like this from happening. Apart from banning all weapons and teaching non-violence to everyone. Sorry, childish again. I want an easy answer.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 3:41 pm

        I think we all want to easy answer Diablo. While doing good to counteract like you suggest isn’t go to turn back time, nothing is going to, so yea, I think some good to counteract is a nice idea. Its something at a time I think we would take anything.

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      • katie

        katie December 14, 2012, 3:42 pm

        i agree.

        even if every gun disappeared this second, crazy people who have an urge to hurt others would find a way. bombs, knives, homemade guns- i have no idea, but they would find a way. we have to figure out how to treat the real cause, which is the actual people behind the gun pulling the trigger.

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        Nadine December 14, 2012, 4:55 pm

        but making guns harder to get will be a stop gap. a very good stopgap! But people are so against their ‘rights’ being infringed they freak out and would rather exercise their freedoms than actually make a tangible difference in saving innocent people. it makes me sick.

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        Nadine December 14, 2012, 4:57 pm

        *useless freedoms!

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        Vathena December 14, 2012, 3:53 pm

        What struck me about your comment was that there was a vigil for a mass shooting that occurred 23 years ago. In the US, we would have to have a vigil once a week, probably more, if we were to commemorate every mass shooting that has happened in the past 20 years. Columbine, Paducah, Virginia Tech, the little girls at the Amish school in PA, the Portland mall shooting this week (which barely registered on the news – I guess you have to murder children for people to be shocked) – the movie theater in Aurora, and it goes on and on. The Washington Post has a page about “deadliest shootings” and there were some that happened just a few years ago that I didn’t even remember. I know there are no easy answers. But it would be nice if we couldn’t just sell, to any asshat who walks in off the street, a perfectly legal weapon capable of slaughtering 18 children and 8 of their teachers inside of 10 minutes.

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        lemongrass December 14, 2012, 10:51 pm

        Our gangs get their guns on the black market- which were smuggled from the US.

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      • bagge72

        bagge72 December 14, 2012, 3:45 pm

        I wonder if we are getting used to it, or if it is just a difference with age? It’s like you’ve seen so much bad happen by the time you’re in your 30’s that you feel like you have to keep everything going as well. With Columbine, I remember being in college, and actually just sitting in my dorm room in awe watching the TV all, and skipping all my classes, but unfortunately, I can’t really do that now, as frustrated, and as shocked as I am.

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle December 14, 2012, 3:19 pm

        I think it’s (only partially, of course) the way we get our news now. I read at least 10 articles already about this tragic event, sifted through comments about it on various websites, went into my cafeteria where the TV was blasting interviews, showing footage, & having the anchors speculate about the killer(s)’ possible motivation. There’s no time to truly process the horror, with the rate at which we’re bombarded with information (& I’m not saying if this is a good or bad thing; it’s just different than it was years ago)

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      • katie

        katie December 14, 2012, 3:40 pm

        i agree- and also, can i just say i hate it? the media is going to take this and run with it, running every possible angle, using every possible buzzword, and interviewing any possible person they can find who had some sort of connection for the next 48 hours straight.

        when the theater shooting happened, i truly figured out how shitty the media is. i watched all day that saturday to find out if anything had become known about my co-workers daughter (who was ultimately one of the 8 killed), and just the way that the media uses these kinds of events is sick.

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        Lindsay December 14, 2012, 3:59 pm

        Twenty-four hour news outlets are the main problem here, because they need to fill up their time, so they dig and dig. But as someone who’s been in a lot of planning meetings for how the media covers events, they tend to put this sort of emphasis on this stuff because the public demands it. I was told many times to put crime stories on my front page because it was one of the few things that readers seemed interested in hearing about. I’d say it’s just as much the fault of the people who can’t get enough of reading gruesome stories as it is the media.

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        lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 4:15 pm

        I think there’s people who like you say, can’t get enough of it, but I think, or at least hope, most are watching/reading just to try and understand. Understand why these things happen, how we can start preventing, etc. I hope.

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      • katie

        katie December 14, 2012, 4:23 pm

        yea, and i do understand that, because i was one of those people glued to the tv hoping to hear her name all day… i guess im just a part of the problem, too. good point.

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        Lindsay December 14, 2012, 8:44 pm

        Yeah, and even if people aren’t just looking at it for entertainment, there’s still an honest interest. I know all my friends and I were paying close attention to updates all day, too.

        I guess I just get a little defensive as part of the media. I agree that the larger outlets often try to stir things up, though. It’s just that there’s a lot more out there than CNN and Fox News, and everyone I’ve worked with has been honest and tried to do good. I think a lot of people in the industry are just news junkies, and they assume everyone else is, too.

        It would be helpful if the media would put stuff out there that people NEED to know, like overlooked legislative issues, instead of just the attention-grabbers.

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        lemongrass December 14, 2012, 10:54 pm

        Speaking of attention grabbers- I was appalled at one of the new anchors. I can’t remember what station it was on but she was asking people horrible questions. “What did the bodies look like?” and such. Then she was interviewing this one little girl and I was enraged. They should be leaving those children alone! They’ve been through enough, they don’t need to satisfy some sick curiosity.

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    Fabelle December 14, 2012, 3:06 pm

    I can’t even handle it. Trying not to read every update because it’s rather overwhelming, but I can’t help it. So very sad.

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    Rangerchick December 14, 2012, 3:19 pm

    I had to read the headline multiple times because I couldn’t believe it…I thought even crazy people wouldn’t go after children. I have two daughters in school ~ it made me want to go check them out right away (I didn’t). It seems no place is safe, ever, anymore ~ schools, movie theaters, malls. So, so sad.

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    *HmC* December 14, 2012, 4:09 pm

    While I understand and appreciate that people are passionate about their political beliefs and are genuinely moved to discuss them by incidents like this, I also despise opportunistic zealots who basically use something like this as an excuse to be a blowhard. It’s a thin line between the two sometimes. I think maybe anger is an easier and more clear feeling to funnel our energy into than sadness, or just a general acceptance that the world sometimes makes no sense to us and can be unpredictable and cruel, however fair we try to make it. Personally, I have no stomach for debate after something like this happens.

    Here’s a friend’s Facebook status that I really liked:

    “If nothing brings us together as humans, tragedy should. It reminds us that even while we bicker over every minute difference, we have a whole lot more in common than we often realize. We are finite, fragile creatures, all vulnerable to our collective sense of brokenness. Praying for the families of Connecticut.

    This is not the time for iconoclasts to deride faith, the religious to condemn non-faith, interest groups to debate policy, finger-pointing, divisiveness, or argument. Today is a day to grieve and pray for healing and comfort.”

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      lets_be_honest December 14, 2012, 4:16 pm

      Excellent comment HmC.

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    Rouge December 14, 2012, 5:10 pm

    I take my son to the orthodontics, and I always pass thru Newtown main Rd. It is a very quite town. Goodness, it can happen anywhere more so shocking when it happens so close to home and more horrific when there are children so young being massacred. I am getting out of work and I will hug my son. How am I going to convince him to go to school on Monday he stayed home sick today.

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    Sunshine Brite December 14, 2012, 10:30 pm

    This is so awful. And Facebook has been making it worse for me reading all the opinions.

    I’m so sad that the newest picture quote thing that I’m seeing is:

    Everyone’s talking about this (gun) not this (pills)
    A main commonality of the School shooters as well as the Batman shooter.
    ALL were on psychotropic medications.
    Warning of adverse side effects.

    As I’ve mentioned, I’m a social worker. And everything in me says fuck whoever is reposting this including my high school friends. Let’s just stigmatize mental illness a little more. Hell, let’s put all the hospital campuses back in and call them asylums again. Yes, there’s adverse side effects from medications, most of which are horrid for the person taking them and no one else. I know people who can’t relate to reality without their meds. Sure the shooters have a history of mental illness and were prescribed meds, who the hell knows if they took anything.

    I know people who never took meds and did not hurt others one bit and got hurt 134u3902x over by others. I know some who begged their psychiatrists for help or more meds and they killed people when no help came. This is not about mental illness itself, it’s about access to proper healthcare, plentiful well-funded resources, case management to connect people to actually useful resources, and (again funded) efforts to properly monitor those experiencing mental health issues.

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    quixoticbeatnik December 14, 2012, 11:48 pm

    This is what I said on Facebook today: “Who the fuck shoots up an elementary school?” and something else, but that was the main gist of my post. I mean, seriously. I’m saddened, appalled, and shocked. I believe that anybody who thinks it is okay to kill an innocent child deserves a very special place in hell. Those poor, poor children. Their dreams and hopes were cut so short.

    I think part of the problem – why we keep seeing shootings – I feel like the culture here in the U.S. is saturated with images about crimes and revenge. I keep thinking that the real root of everything is this desire for revenge. We aren’t teaching people how to effectively deal with their anger and their feelings – we aren’t teaching them that hurting others is NOT the solution to their problems. The solution must come from within (with help from outside, if need be). I agree with what others said – that therapy and mental health issues need more attention. People who have issues with their mental health should be helped. People who are angry or sad and want to take it out on someone else should go see a therapist and get help. I think everyone should talk to a therapist. EVERYONE! It’s nice to have a stranger to talk to about everything.

    Side note: after this, I was reading People Magazine and they were talking about Blessings in a Backpack, and what a great organization it is for poor kids and their familes, and how only $80 will feed one kid for a year – and I seriously think I am going to donate that money. These kids are the future – and the future needs help.

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