June 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm #30028
So I feel like being philosophical today. I want to get other people’s thoughts on karma, and if you guys think it exists or not. Because I don’t. Maybe I am just being bitter old lady lately. I feel like people who need a karmic kick in the ass never get it, and the “good” people get their asses kicked. If that makes sense. Anyway. Just want to hear your thoughtsJune 14, 2012 at 5:24 pm #30031
I don’t believe in Karma. I’ve met too many people who have just had life shit on them over and over again when they never did anything to seemingly “deserve” it. And I think that some of the most successful people out there probably got that way by stepping on a few people on their way up.June 14, 2012 at 5:25 pm #30032
I believe in Karma. Karma just takes longer to reach some people compared to others.June 14, 2012 at 5:29 pm #30036
I HOPE Karma exists. The truth is though that bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. I like to think there will be an eventual reckoning though.June 14, 2012 at 5:46 pm #30038
I totally believe in Karma. But its not as simple as we all like to think it is. For all the people who have seen and dealt with shit, I think the karmic lesson is a strengthening one. They’re going to be in a better position to help others if they properly handle and face their struggles, and honestly what better feeling than knowing your pain and suffering wasn’t in vain, it was to help someone else!June 14, 2012 at 5:49 pm #30040
i believe in karmachanics.
(i’m in rare form today.)June 14, 2012 at 6:16 pm #30041
Hmmm Lili, that’s an interesting take. I guess I have always thought shitty person=shitty karma. But the thought of it strengthening you sounds nice. Or at least comforting. Ahh life is just crazy sometimes.June 14, 2012 at 6:18 pm #30042
And rachel, I totally agree with you. How do all these sociopath/narcisissts become such successful CEOs and basically coast through life, while the nice little guys have to clean up everyone else’s crap, so to speak?
God I need to stop taking my bitter pills in the morning haha!June 14, 2012 at 6:36 pm #30046
@Dandy Thanks! Actually I think my view is rooted in the traditional Buddhist/Hindu belief of karma. Since the aim of life is to basically ‘do the most good’ (yes I know, thats oversimplifying it, but work with me folks) all the struggles we face can bring us closer to it if we have the right attitude and intentions.
Also according to a lot of spiritual beliefs, the world has all the sociopath CEOs because god also needs the devil. Basically saying t hat good is pointless without evil kinda thing. Ha. I totally had my new agey/hippy pills this AM. Although I was a bit bitter about dating today/this month, but working on resetting that mindset!June 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm #30047
oh come on people, karmachanic?! super funny. i think i heard it in a movie.June 14, 2012 at 7:11 pm #30052
I’ll give it to you AP – It totally made me smile – and I’m still at work after 7pm – so it takes a LOT to make me smile now…June 14, 2012 at 7:16 pm #30053
aw good, in that case i came up with karmachanic all by myself.June 14, 2012 at 7:50 pm #30061
Haha AP i did enjoy it And I totally would have believed you that you came up with it.June 14, 2012 at 7:53 pm #30062
I do believe in it, and I believe it’s not handled by a greater being but by yourself. As a simple example, if you’re always rude to people someday you’ll be rude to the wrong person and lose great opportunities because of it. If you don’t treat people with respect people who love themselves won’t want you near, and you’ll end up stuck with people with enough problems to agree to put up with your disrespect, and good luck building something good for yourself when all your building blocks are that fucked up.
I also think it’s not only about what happens to you, but about how you feel. Sometimes people’s “punishment” (I don’t like the concept, I like “universe’s response to your destructive deeds” better) is only in their heads, so you can’t tell they got what they deserved by looking at the facts because they’re supposedly getting all they want, but they’re actually not enjoying any of it. I mean, imagine being someone who’s always stabbing people in the back and taking what’s theirs. Those people usually convince themselves that EVERYONE is like that. So they do feel a bit less at fault, but imagine trying to sleep at night believing that EVERY SINGLE PERSON AROUND YOU is waiting for you to be distracted to tear you down. It sounds like a nightmare to me.
Also, I don’t want to get all dark and twisted with the personal anecdotes, but the greatest example I could give is this one: When I was 20 a very recent ex-BF raped me and tried to burn me alive. I never told the police (long story) or did anything else about it, so he never got “punished”. By looking at it like that, I guess you could say Karma doesn’t exist. But I don’t see it like that. I thought of killing him, at first, but then I didn’t not because I didn’t want to get caught, but because I realized that I would just be putting him out of his misery. I know him well. I know how paranoid he is, how he is always feeling inadequate for who he is, how he’s always believing everyone despises him and thinks he’s ridiculous and is laughing at him, how he hates himself. And he still contacts me sometimes in the same spirit, so I know it hasn’t changed. It fucking hurts being him. He feels that way EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE. I couldn’t come up with a punishment more cruel than that even if I tried very hard. And my life is so happy (even including the effort I had to put in to deal with the aftermath of what happened), I have so many great days, love and spoil myself so much, have so much fun, trust my friends so much and feel so safe and loved, that I honestly believe I got the sweet end of the deal. And I also believe that he did what he did to my head the two years we were together (lots of violence) to turn me into someone like him, because he could tell what state of being I was moving towards, and he knew he had no place in it. So he dedicated a lot of energy to breaking me. And he failed, and I got there anyway. And he knows it. That must hurt a lot too. So even though you could say that situation is a perfect example of evil going unpunished, I consider it karmically balanced and done. I don’t know, maybe it sounds like I’m just trying to convince myself that it’s ok, but I honestly believe this. I don’t know if it makes sense.June 14, 2012 at 8:44 pm #30065
After a lifetime of seeing biggest assholes around me succeed tremendously and the nicest people dying horribly in car accidents or due to cancer — I simply don’t believe in it any more. Seriously. For anybody who believes in Karma I have just two words: Kim Kardashian. Proof positive Karma doesn’t exist.
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