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  • #28698
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    Addie Pray
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    Oh. Mon. Dieu. How is Don going to recover from this? This is the second time someone has hanged himself after Don cut them off. … Remember, his brother, now Lane. He’s going to be an emotional wreck, I’m just wondering how he’ll handle that. Throw himself in work? Leave work? Run away to California? I bet he does something drastic.

    #28703
    MaterialsGirl
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    I want to talk to Samson: : I think Megan wasn’t very prepared to be a step mom. Not all fun and games and being the good guy.

    I liked how they both handled the Glenn situation. Very sweet moments of parenting on both Don and Bettys part. It sounds like Sally respect and Henry also.

    Back to lane: I still think don did what was right. If the client found out about stealing from the treasurer! Although suicide probably wasn’t on his mind. He was very firm but not hateful. Lane jut wasnt as trustworthy or good as we all thought.

    #28716
    iwannatalktosampson
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    I definitely think Megan likes being a step mom when it comes to being cool and taking her to shows and talking about drinking with her – but when it comes to watching her when she has “other” things to do she’s not into it. I can also see the tension rising between Don and Megan – caused by Megan – about her own dissatisfaction with her acting career. I think she is so defensive about it. Don has been as supportive as he can be about it but she doesn’t seem to think he values her now that she’s not pitching ideas – which I don’t think is true.

    Also I know I have a soft spot for Betty but I didn’t really take the “she just needed her mother” thing as a dig. I thought it was nice of her to even call Megan and let her know. Plus she seemed to be bonding with Megan about the situation – like Yay one more woman in the family. At least that’s how I took it.

    As far as Don handling the Glenn situation – I think he wasn’t really handling anything but just running away. He didn’t want to have to tell Megan about Lane so he was happy to have an excuse to be gone for 6 hours. It’s obviously not his fault but he will take it that way.

    #28717
    MaterialsGirl
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    very probable. It was a good opportunity for him just to think. (and let glenn drive.. nice one).

    I thought betty was being nice, too.. until the very last line. i just remember thinking “oh crap, she ruined what was a nice moment.”

    #29822
    bittergaymark
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    The finale left me a bit cold… I think they really MISSED the boat by not showing the funeral or the aftermath… And Megan’s whining about NOT being successful after a few months was pathetic. NOBODY makes it as an ACTOR that fast. Nobody!!

    #29825
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    Addie Pray
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    I thought there wasn’t a funeral… for reasons I can’t remember. Maybe the body was sent back to England for burial? As for the aftermath, I think they showed it: at least Don, Roger, Joan, and Pete each mentioned it and were acting sad, confused, and/or hitting up LSD again … I mean, I think each of those characters seemed a little effected, in a way we could attribute to the hanging. The thing I find the most profound about death is how…. normal seeming everything feels right after – everybody back to work – everybody going about their day. So, actually, the office life in the season finale seemed …. realistic.

    I loved the ending – the cliffhanger being whether Don is going to slip back into his ways or not. I’m glad there wasn’t another HUGE change of events. It would have felt like they’re desperately trying to make things crazy to keep us interested. And we needed a little calmness after all the changes we saw this season.

    I just hope to God we don’t have to wait 5 years for the next season to begin!

    #29826
    MaterialsGirl
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    Seriously right? When don went to talk to Rebecca about the money, he mentioned she wouldn’t let them have a memorial etc. I assumed that meant minimal for funeral etc. I didn’t like how she assumed that lane shouldn’t have been brought up like that. His problem was communication and managing anxiety, not lack of potential.

    Megan is officially whiney. I think the dynamic between the two wil change, not that she is don’s discovery. I did love seeing Peggy again. Oh how I love her

    #29831
    bittergaymark
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    I think that last shot of Don and Megan showed that he was very much leaving Meagan behind so to speak…

    Look, I get that they explained away the lack of funeral plot-wise, but it was a BAD creative decision. I’ve actually had a colleague hang herself… and that funeral was so profoundly disturbing… So epic and horrible…. Lane’s could have made for some amazing scenes… Instead we got Don being stupid about NOT going to the dentist… Eh, it just all fell flat to me. The Pete affair story was interesting, sure… but so NOT worthy of the season finale!

    And sadly, as has happened more often than not, the theme was spelled out far too obviously by the writers… Megan’s mom telling her she is chasing a phantom? Come on! Really? We’re all smarter than that, guys…

    PS — Seeing Peggy was a nice bonus. But her scenes felt curiously abridged and too short.

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    Nikoe4Sho
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    Idk I actually think NOT having a funeral is pretty realistic. My aunt killed herself last year, and there was no funeral, just the family getting together on the day she was cremated. Whether it’s ‘right’ or not, there is some level of shame attached to suicide; it’s socially uncomfortable because nobody knows how to handle it or what to say to the family. It’s a lot different than a natural or accidental death. I can only imagine how much truer this would be for a conservative family in the 60′s who are concerned with keeping up appearances.

    #29885
    bittergaymark
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    People used to LIE all the time about suicides. They still do. Look through the paper and you can almost always find an obit with somebody “Dying Suddenly.” I think a funeral of lies where they gloss over his death and such in the service would have been amazing… I felt like his death was swept under the rug a bit much…

    I was no longer working where I had shared an office with my deceased colleague, but I was definitely at that funeral… And it was an awkward reunion — it all felt super loaded, too. Peggy WOULD have attended. And that would have been a much more interesting reunion than a random at the theatre moment of shallow chitchat… The way Peggy didn’t even seem to know about Lane’s death seemed false to me… Trust me, word gets around.

    Here’s my main beef though… That this episode was kind of boring. And I never find Mad Men boring… But this was really going out with a whimper in my mind. And it had some of the worst writing EVER in the series. “I’ll hang around…” Bah! So beneath this show. It bummed me out.

    #29886
    ScrambledMegss
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    Totally agree BGM, I was bored too. I was anticipating so much more

    #29890
    iwannatalktosampson
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    Can we please talk some more about how much Megan sucks? She acts more like Don’s daughter than wife. She’s so whiny. Wah I’m not an actress. Wah you have kids and I have to take care of them for one day a fucking year while I’m unemployed. Then she just gets wasted to cope? I mean that’s something I would do – but I still judge her. I would get drunk and laugh it all off – she gets drunk and is obnoxious about it. And what a little biotch about stealing her friends part. I hate her more and more the more air time she gets.

    And I agree BGM – they could have done SO much more with Lane’s death. I mean it was a huge thing, and they don’t even really acknowledge it. I can’t believe no one found out Don fired him, I mean COME ON. I refuse to believe nothing about it was said in the suicide note. And there was not nearly enough sex in this episode.

    AND WHERE IS BETTY. I love that bitch. Where is her husband?? I wanted their story line to go somewhere. The episode was filled with so much shit – and they have such great characters to make the show awesome I get mad when an episode sucks.

    #29891
    Lili
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    I hated the lack of betty this season on general. I think there was SO MUCH potential to show her struggles with getting fat this season. I mean, as a shallow person and former model, that was THE WORSE thing that could have happened to her, wish it was explored in a more profound way.

    #29897
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    Addie Pray
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    Oh those are good points, BGM. That would have been a cool story line – they lie about his death, Peggy returns, they all are reunited b/c of Lane. …. Ok, see, this is why you’re a writer (or just in general in the business – not sure if you’re a writer). I think I would have liked that more. I thought the tooth thing was kind of boring. … And Pete getting an apartment in the city was definitely a snooze of a finale for his character. … You know, now I kind of want to take back what I said before about the episode. Maybe it wasn’t so great and subtle like I originally said. And you know what? I kind of felt like they were more interested in creating artistic scenes – like the partners in the empty office space, spread out with Joan in the middle. Nice scene. Or one of the last shots of Don walking away from Megan on set. Nice picture too. … But who cares. Basically, I felt that they were creating these artsy shots that were supposed to be heavy and epic… but, like, nothing was happening in the story line. Ok, I take back everything- now I think that episode was off, way off.

    #29898
    bittergaymark
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    Megan is beyond whiny. If she had my life she’d have killed herself years ago. She clearly has no real idea of just how bad life truly can get… I mean WTF, bitch? You live rent free in the most fabulous apartment ever in NYC — and yet you’re still a fucking mess because you ain’t on broadway after all of three months? Ugh, kill yourself already, bitch and be done with it. Borrow some of Lane’s rope. Trust me, you REALLY won’t be missed.

    I missed Betty, too. But I think her absence had more to do with her pregnancy in real life than a lapse of judgement on the powers that be at Mad Men… Still, more Betty would have been needed. There was far TOO much Megan this season. And not enough everybody else…

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