Dear Wendy
Dear Wendy

Guys Get “Hammered” and Women Get “Tipsy”

Photo1Obviously, the researchers who studied the language men and women use to describe their level of intoxication (for a new study, just published today) did NOT take a look at this site where words and phrases like “wasted,” and “drunk off my ass” are bandied about by Iwanna our mostly-female community all the freakin’ time. Instead, researchers had 145 undergraduate students read vignettes describing people who had been drinking. Participants used words like “tipsy” to describe the drunk-ass female characters, while they used words like “wasted” and ‘hammered” to describe the drunk-ass male characters.

This supports previous research that found “that women tend to use terms that describe their own intoxication levels as more moderate, while men tend to choose terms describing heavy intoxication.”

The lead researcher said that “the difference in language may reflect gender and social norms. One possibility is that women downplay intoxication to fit expectations about how much women should drink.” The study also suggests that women who are drunk “may be negatively perceived by their female and male peers.”

You know what else may happen to women who are drunk and underestimate their level of intoxication? Worse than having embarrassing photos of themselves posted and tagged on Facebook, they are are greater risk of sexual victimization and drunk driving. So, hey, if you want to get hammered or tipsy or wasted or drunk, have at it! Just remember to do it safely — don’t drive if you’ve been drinking (and don’t let another drunk drive!), and don’t go home with some rando you’ve just met or someone you don’t trust. If you want to exchange numbers, fine. If you want to make out in the corner of a darkened bar, cool. But if you’ve been drinking heavily, don’t be stupid and end up alone with someone you don’t know who could take advantage of your drunk ass. Calling yourself “tipsy” isn’t going to save you from the jerks who prey on wasted women.

[via USA Today]

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    Em July 11, 2013, 1:35 pm

    Excuse me, but I get ‘slammered’ and ‘shwasted.’

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    temperance July 11, 2013, 1:36 pm

    I went to Penn State. We described “tipsy” as a few glasses of wine, but were known to get hammered, wrecked, or fucked up. We’re classy. lol

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      kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 1:42 pm

      Penn State FTW. Yeh, to me “tipsy” is I had two glasses of wine or margaritas. Otherwise, I just got DRUNK. Now there were different levels of drunk: normal drunk, wasted, blacked out, and alcohol poisoning drunk. But I was more often one of those (except for the alcohol poisoning one) than tipsy at Penn State.

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      rachel July 11, 2013, 2:02 pm

      Agreed. Also. I’m so sad I’m missing Arts Fest right now. I haven’t been back for it in so long!

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 2:08 pm

        same. I told my friend the other day “One artsfest I met a new boyfriend, drove a guy to the ER when he fell on broken glass, and had my ex-boyfriend show up to my apartment with his new girlfriend”. Which doesn’t sound fun, but the amount of crazy things that could occur in 3 days was incredible.

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 2:08 pm

        Oh, Oh, wait DW drinking game. One artsfest I met SARA who reads this site but it usually a lurker 🙂

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        Sarah July 11, 2013, 4:55 pm

        Hi!! Artsfest was mostly fun but I never want to go again. Also that was literally the first time I ever blacked out. That’s how I feel about that 😛

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        Sarah July 11, 2013, 4:56 pm

        Also I’m pretty sure that was exactly four years ago.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 2:28 pm

        Ross and I had this conversation about arts fest the other day:

        me: “well they block off a bunch of the streets and have art vendors and music and chicken on a stick, but mostly it’s awesome because a lot of alumni come back”

        Ross: “so, basically a bunch of old people get wasted?”

        me: “YES!”

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 3:07 pm

        I stayed at school for 2 summers for internships in the library, so it was the point in the summer when all my friends came back to party. How is that not a blast! Ok, enough PSU bragging because I could go on for hours.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:10 pm

        Wait, maybe we’ve talked about this. Which library did you work in?

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 3:21 pm

        I worked in Pattee in special collections/rare books/university records management

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:25 pm

        I wonder if we ever passed each other in the halls and didn’t know it, I worked in the stacks! Though maybe you are young enough that we didn’t overlap.

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        temperance July 11, 2013, 3:57 pm

        I AM SO JEALOUS. Did you get to work with the Hemingway documents?

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 4:03 pm

        I didn’t but I think they had them on exhibit while I was there? I worked on doing preservation on thousands of theater lighting blueprints (it’s as exhilarating as it sounds..), some artists letters that talk about Yado (artists retreat), and then a lot of university archives and records mgmt stuff. It was 4-5 years ago and my memory is already fading!

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 4:06 pm

        Now I’m thinking of who I knew in preservation and wondering if you worked with them, haha.

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        temperance July 11, 2013, 7:43 pm

        I was there when the exhibit was first set up! I graduated in ’05 in English, which is probably obvious from my excitement over the Hemingway letters.

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      • mandalee

        mandalee July 11, 2013, 3:28 pm

        Damnit now I miss Artsfest. In all the years I went, I saw actual art once but I did love running through those water buckets when it got hot! Artsfest always fell on or around my birthday, so it was always a drunkfest.

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        temperance July 11, 2013, 3:56 pm

        I KNOW. I’m preparing for the bar, so I am basically stuck indoors, and I almost cried when I got an alumni assoc. email offering $48/day stays in West. Cry.

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    cdobbs July 11, 2013, 1:43 pm

    the world record hangover lasted 4 weeks after a Scottish man drank 60 pints of beer (approximately 35 liters of beer!) i’d say he was probably very wasted! lol!

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    • Lindsay

      Lindsay July 11, 2013, 1:47 pm

      Was that a hangover or the early stages of liver failure?

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    bethany July 11, 2013, 1:50 pm

    I think the words I use to describe my level of drunkenness have changed greatly over time. In college it was “Buzzed”, “Wasted” and “Fucked Up”… Now it’s “Drunk” and “Tipsy”.

    To me, Tipsy is 3 glasses of wine and under. If I drink more than 3 glasses of wine, I’m drunk.

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      GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 1:53 pm

      GatorGuy and I where talking about this yesterday (while driving to our favorite local brewery at 4pm…) we exclusively use “tipsy” or “drunk”. Tipsy is 3 drinks or less, drunk is 4 drinks or more. We have no need for other descriptors.

      Oh, and “White Girl Wasted” is used on nights where we meet Ryan Lotche and get in a bar fight.

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:04 pm

        I LOVE the phrase “white girl wasted”

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:06 pm

        Really? I find it dumb. Do other races not get “girl wasted?”
        Maybe this is me being too PC?

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:08 pm

        Well, I usually use “white girl wasted” when referring to myself getting absolutely inappropriately intoxicated. So I think it’s pretty PC 😛

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:09 pm

        All I know is that when I first heard it & its definition, I cracked up laughing because I realize White Girl Wasted can describe me half the time I’m drunk, haha

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:09 pm

        Off to look it up!

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:11 pm

        “To get completely drunk, wasted, or sloshed to the point where you can no longer control yourself physically or mentally. Term originally given to younger white girls, mainly college freshman, after they consume way too much alcohol. This commonly results in overall in-coherency, and brief “skankyness” before a quick emotional breakdown. Which are all followed up by the process of destroying the party through multiple drunken slurs and complete trashiness and finally passing out in an upstairs bedroom because they are too drunk to make it home.”

        Found this too…Korean boy wasted is a level of drunkenness superior to all others. When this drunk, even Snooki would say “You’re too drunk”, though she’ll likely smoosh you anyway. Be prepared to wake up naked in a ditch with a mannequin, a half-stick of butter, a Burt Reynolds autographed glow in the dark snorkel and no recollection of how this ridiculous assortment of items came to be in your possession.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:13 pm

        Yeah, the first paragraph pretty accurately describes 95% of white females I knew in college.

        I think the Korean boy one is teetering on racially insensitive though. IDK why white girl wasted doesn’t seem that way to me.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:15 pm

        I mean, I’m not trying to sound like a drag, but I guess I know girls of many races who’ve been like that? Korean boy wasted probably seems offensive to you because you aren’t a Korean boy.

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      • theattack

        theattack July 11, 2013, 2:17 pm

        hahaha, Imagining GG as a Korean boy just made me laugh hysterically. A Korean boy who loves American etiquette and flamingos.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:18 pm

        You’re totally right on both points. I read a thing on urban dictionary saying “white girl wasted” was similar to “ghetto booty” in the not racially charged-ness. Obviously urban dictionary isn’t a great source, but it sorta made sense.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:19 pm

        ta, hahahaha

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  • theattack

    theattack July 11, 2013, 1:55 pm

    I say I’m tipsy until I realize that tipsy people don’t take their clothes off outside or trip over the couch. I just never realize that I’m drunk.

    Does anyone remember the thread Anna (?) started where we played the game Drunk or Kid? That was so much fun!

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      bethany July 11, 2013, 1:56 pm

      Wendy linked to it above!

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      • theattack

        theattack July 11, 2013, 2:02 pm

        Oh, oops. haha I always forget to click through to things because they interrupt my reading.

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    lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:00 pm

    I too find tipsy and wasted as two distinctly different things.

    How awesome of a group that Wendy was able to have a different drunk forum for each word in All The Freakin Time!

    Love this whole thing!

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      GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:04 pm

      GGuy and I where talking about that too. Like everyone we know sees “tipsy” and “buzzed” as one side of the drinking spectrum and “drunk” and “wasted” as the other side. Everyone from my 18 year old sister to his mom to men and women we tailgate with.

      Also, I think examining ONE school can skew results because a lot of colleges have their own lingo that isn’t transferable to other areas/schools.

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        Lindsay July 11, 2013, 2:15 pm

        Same. I don’t know anyone who uses them interchangeably.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:16 pm

        If only there was a way to lock in tipsy, and not get wasted…

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 2:19 pm

        There is! Switch to “water, drink, water, drink”. The problem is that when you’re Tipsy, you can’t control yourself, and you think “I don’t need water! More Wine!” Then you get drunk.

        The you above being me, of course 🙂

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:21 pm

        Exactly my point bethany! Once I’m tipsy, Peter says I just want to “ride the wave” and never stop. And he’s learned not to tell me to slow down even if I ask him to, haha. Oh well.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 2:21 pm

        And me.

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    CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 2:04 pm

    Haha, I use shitfaced and wasted to describe my levels of drunkenness kinda regularly. Do I need an intervention? Also wasty-face, but I borrowed that term from IWTTS. To me, “tipsy” is on my way to drunk.

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      bethany July 11, 2013, 2:15 pm

      Oh yeah, we used to use shitfaced a lot too… Forgot about that one!

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      lemongrass July 11, 2013, 3:16 pm

      I was waiting for someone to say shitfaced. It’s my most used term.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:19 pm

        You are way too mature to be shitfaced 🙂

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      painted_lady July 11, 2013, 7:27 pm

      Shitfaced is clearly the superior term, ladies. Two things ladies don’t do: drink too much and curse unnecessarily.

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    lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:05 pm

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      Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 2:24 pm

      awesome- more bang for the buck indeed!

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 3:00 pm

        except actually i don’t need any more bang in my bottle – i get so drunk so fast these days. i would like more bang in my pants though.

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    Morgan July 11, 2013, 2:08 pm

    I use tipsy or happy if I’m like, on my way there. Drunk if I’m well, drunk, but not ridiculously so, and wasted or hammered if I am excessively drunk.

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      Morgan July 11, 2013, 2:09 pm

      Oh, and in college I used shitfaced mostly to describe other people, and it usually implied a certain level of absurd behavior as well as intoxication.

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      kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 2:11 pm

      Your “happy” reminded me that my grandma once called me high when I was drunk at my sisters wedding. She was like “you’re really high right now” hahahha.

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:15 pm

        haha, my grandpa likes to say “looped.”

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:17 pm

        My grandma says 2 sheets (or 2 sheets to the wind)

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      • CatsMeow

        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 2:21 pm

        My grandma says, “You’re LIT!”

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      • LadyinPurpleNotRed

        LadyinPurpleNotRed July 11, 2013, 3:35 pm

        Mine says 3 sheets to the wind…expect that one time in Spain…she was 5 sheets to the wind…that was wonderful to see.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 4:18 pm

        I wonder if I’m remembering it wrong, or if the amount of sheets depends on what country you’re from! She’s Irish.

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      • LadyinPurpleNotRed

        LadyinPurpleNotRed July 11, 2013, 5:41 pm

        Mine’s Italian

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  • Fabelle

    Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:12 pm

    I usually use “tipsy” kind of tongue-in-cheek to refer to actually being completely drunk? Like, “yeah, I was a little TIPSY by that point…” (meanwhile, “that point” is me walking around with my ass out blasting offensive music through whatever audio system I hijacked, making random people try to dance with me. And then passing out.)

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    • theattack

      theattack July 11, 2013, 2:13 pm

      That’s it, I want to drink with Fabelle.

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:14 pm

        😉

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      • CatsMeow

        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 2:17 pm

        ME TOO!

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        Morgan July 11, 2013, 2:34 pm

        I know, right?

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      • KKZ

        KKZ July 11, 2013, 3:36 pm

        Me too!

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    • CatsMeow

      CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 2:17 pm

      You are a one-woman party!

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    • Fabelle

      Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:42 pm

      Haha! I want to drink with all you guys too 😀 DW party!!

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    MissDre July 11, 2013, 2:14 pm

    And then there are weirdos like me who don’t drink. For me, one glass of wine is being drunk.

    Except for that one time…. many years ago… where I ended up passed out in the grass, lying spread-eagle in a puddle of my own puke, ripped pantyhose on display. I remember none of this, but my wonderful big brother has photographic evidence which I pray he’ll never have a reason to use against me. I guess that means I was “wasted”.

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    • Classic

      Classic July 11, 2013, 2:23 pm

      Why is it that you do not drink? I am not saying you should, or anything, I am just curious about the reason, unless it is private, of course.

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        MissDre July 11, 2013, 2:30 pm

        I just don’t like it. I don’t like the taste of pretty much any kind of alcohol, except for wine which I enjoy on special occasions. I think beer tastes like piss, I’ve tried a variety of mixed drinks and thought they were all nasty (I also don’t really like juice at all so fruity cocktails are out).

        I also have extremely low tolerance. Like, 1 glass of wine gets me giggling, 2 glasses of wine gets me drunk to the point where I can’t walk straight. A 3rd glass of wine would probably have me puking. I also really really do not like the feeling of being intoxicated. I don’t find it fun or relaxing in any way.

        So, I just don’t drink. When party time comes I stick to my diet coke and I’m perfectly content with that 🙂

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      • Classic

        Classic July 11, 2013, 2:36 pm

        That makes sense. 🙂

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        MissDre July 11, 2013, 2:39 pm

        Oh wait I lied. I like Bellinis. Those are great! But even then, one is enough for me.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:36 pm

        I like it!

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    • Miel

      Miel July 11, 2013, 2:56 pm

      I’m similar to you. I limit my alcohol consumption, which keeps me in the light weight, not used to alcohol category. 1 drink I’m tipsy, 2 drinks on the verge of being drunk, 3 drinks I sing Lady Gaga out loud on the street.

      Partying is pretty cheap for me in the end !

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  • iwannatalktosampson

    iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 2:17 pm

    I’m oddly excited to be included in this. Confession: I just texted Colin that I want to start looking for a new job because this one makes me want to inject vodka directly in my veins. Happy Thursday bitches.

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      lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:20 pm

      Wooooo! Life changes. Send me a memo on how you are so ok with them.

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      • iwannatalktosampson

        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 2:36 pm

        Haha I am not sure how I’m okay with my life changes, as someone who craves stability. But it’s weird – you wake up every morning, and go to bed every night – and all the shit in between you can do whatever you want with. One of my responsible friends (stay at home mom – you know, went to law school and then became a stay at home mom – talk about an overachiever, she’s also teaching her 6 month old sign language – but I digress) asked me how I drink so often now and not be hungover when just 6 months ago I was turning down happy hours.

        Drinking, I’ve discovered, is like riding a bike. You can take a long hiatus, and then get right back on the wagon. The only thing I’d recommend is occasional weekday nights (fine, 4) of having 1-2 drinks, so that on the weekends when you day drink all day, your body can cope.

        These are important lessons for all women out of college with declining health.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:38 pm

        I love you.

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      • Copa

        Copa July 11, 2013, 3:27 pm

        TWO of my law school friends became stay at home moms within a year of graduation. It’s weird to me. (Not that I should be talking since I never practiced and I’m sure my life choices are equally weird to everyone else. Haha.) And, even sadder, is that I’m jealous of both because they somehow manage to live VERY comfortably despite having a kid and only one household incoming and owing hundreds of thousands of dollars. I just don’t get it. Haha.

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  • Roxy_84

    Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 2:23 pm

    Timely. I actually just described my drunkenness levels over the past week (Stampede) to a friend.

    Wed (3rd): medium drunk, Thurs: off, Fri: super drunk, Sat: tipsy, Sun: sorta tipsy, Mon: sorta tipsy, Tues: pretty drunk, Wed (10th): tipsy, Tonight (planned): super drunk

    And then I need to pull the chute.

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    • Roxy_84

      Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 2:25 pm

      Confession: It’s worse because the nights I “took it easy” and was only tipsy, that’s like 6-7 drinks

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      • iwannatalktosampson

        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 2:58 pm

        Er my god did you go to Nashville North? I was there on Sunday. Getting white girl wasted. I went to every single beer garden in the whole Stampede grounds. It was amazing. I actually drank myself sober though, which was weird.

        (P.S. Only on DW would we have a discussion about whether White Girl Wasted was racially insensitive. I love you all.)

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:00 pm

        haha, I just said I think its dumb. I knew you would call me out for it!

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      • iwannatalktosampson

        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:02 pm

        No I think it’s kind of dumb too. It’s an annoying term, and I’m too old to use it. But I also think it’s super funny to call it racially insensitive. But then again I am occasionally racially insensitive… so take my comments with a grain of salt.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:03 pm

        I don’t know that I’d say its racially insensitive(I mean, really–Seth voice), and I’m definitely not offended by it. Just that its dumb.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:09 pm

        It is totally a dumb word. I only use it on special occasions, when I’m obnoxiously drunk and then have the dreaded 2 day hangover I now get because I’m over 25.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:13 pm

        No judgment! Guess I’m too old to have ever had it in my vocabulary to begin with. ‘Thanks for making me realize that 🙁

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:17 pm

        You’re not that much older than me! But we do live in a college town and GGuy is around college kids all the time so.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:21 pm

        Ok, I feel better. Thank you!

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      • Roxy_84

        Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 3:06 pm

        I was at Nashville on Tuesday. It already smelled like vomit. Tents are ideally a first-weekend-only activity, and you should strictly avoid them at all costs the second weekend. Haha. After Nashville, I ate so much midway food. I split a poutine, pizza and mini donuts with my friend, and had a corn dog myself. The pizza was a poor substitute for taco-in-a-bag, which is what I really wanted but was too drunk to find.

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        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:13 pm

        I got drunk, then met up with my mom and the other 30 relatives that were there (we ditched most of them and just hung out with the 6 coolest relatives) and my mom told me I needed food. Clearly she saw what was going on in my life. So she took me to buy french fries. And then I decided I wanted to buy Colin a t-shirt. So I try to pick one out but it was super high up on the rack, so I take my hand, with french fries in it, and knock over a rack of t-shirts and spill my french fries all over the floor. I then left in disgrace with no french fries and no t-shirt. My mom offered to buy me more, but I was too ashamed. You get one pile of french fries per night! If you spill them, like an asshole, you’re grounded. #stampedelessonskids.

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        Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 3:19 pm

        I laughed out loud at this. “You need food” “Ok, awesome. Oh, I’m to drunk to execute this properly” I can just picture you grounding yourself too. No shirt and no food.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 3:10 pm

        Drinking yourself sober is a really weird experience… Like how does that actually happen?! But oddly, it does every now and then.

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      • Roxy_84

        Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 3:15 pm

        You know what I hate? That moment you realize exactly how completely drunk you are when you’re shitfaced, but you also realize in the same moment that there is nothing you can do about it

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:17 pm

        There’s a special way I say T and the shiT when that happens.

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      • iwannatalktosampson

        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:16 pm

        Especially when you aren’t drinking water or eating food. How does your body just get over it?? Maybe because there’s a lot of water in beer… and I was drinking beer?

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      • mrmidtwenties

        mrmidtwenties July 11, 2013, 3:59 pm

        I wish everyone here understood stampede drinking, is there any other place in the world where you can be hammer shmammed for 10 days straight and no one judges you. Also, the new way of describing the term “wasted” at my job is “drunk like mrmid in lumber” then everyone talks about how I came in so wasted one day they had to send me home.

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      • Roxy_84

        Roxy84 July 11, 2013, 4:18 pm

        Probably the only reasonable comparison is Oktoberfest? In my mind anyway

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      • mrmidtwenties

        mrmidtwenties July 11, 2013, 6:35 pm

        Oh yes Oktoberfest, and maybe Mardi Gras?

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      • Roxy_84

        Roxy84 July 12, 2013, 1:36 am

        Maybe Mardi Gras. OMG I am shmamered right now. Holy shit.

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    GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:42 pm

    I’m pretty sure we’ve talked about this before, but what do y’all classify as a normal amount of drinking for yourself. I’m currently trying to figure this out for myself because I really like to drink. Possibly too much and too often.

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      lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:44 pm

      I’d say a reasonable amount for me would be about 4 drinks. Not saying I have 4 every time at all, sometimes I’ll have 1-2, and obviously sometimes more than 4.

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      rachel July 11, 2013, 2:47 pm

      It really depends on the day? But yeah 3-4 is probably a normal amount.

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    • Fabelle

      Fabelle July 11, 2013, 2:49 pm

      I think 3 drinks is probably a good amount for me? but I obviously exceed that quite often. If I’m just home drinking, I’ll stick with 1 or 2, sometimes 3—when I’m out, though, I’ll usually keep drinking past that. My friends, family, & boyfriend’s family are all drinkers, so a lot of events involve imbibing.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 2:51 pm

        Yeah, if I’m drinking on a weeknight at home, usually 2 or maybe 3 depending on what I’m drinking. If I’m out, or at a party…well maybe I should be counting more often, haha.

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      GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 2:50 pm

      Yeah, I rarely have more than 4, unless it’s a Saturday and we’re day drinking. But I want a beer like every night. So I impose no drinking nights.

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      iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:01 pm

      Hmm right now I would say I am drinking much more than my “average” which I consider reasonable. I think it’s reasonable to have 3 days a week where I have 1-2 drinks, and one weekend day where I have 4-6. Although actually now that I think about it I’m not tooooo much more than that lately. I would say I have 1-2 drinks 2-3 nights a week, and then have 2 days where it’s 4-6. What am I going to do? Quit shotgunning beers at Monday night kickball league? No thanks. I’d rather die.

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      kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 3:03 pm

      It depends on the person. Health wise I thought women weren’t supposed to have more than 1/day (that is if you drink every single day). But I wouldn’t blink if someone had 1-2 glasses of wine every night during the week and then more on friday/sat nights. As long as you don’t look forward to that drink *too much* i.e. you can’t relax without alcohol. I personally only have 2-3 drinks at a time because of my migraines, and usually only drink 1 night a week if that. I don’t think I’ve had a drink for over a month at this point.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:08 pm

        I think that’s what I’m over analyzing. I’m 110% not dependent on alcohol (I don’t get like pissed if I can’t have a drink or any “crazy” behaviors). I just enjoy a beer or 3 while cooking dinner and watching tv at night on most nights. But if I’m heading towards baby making I need to cut it back.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:11 pm

        DRINK!

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:13 pm

        😛

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:14 pm

        I love how, without context, this looks like you are demanding that baby-making GG take a drink.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 3:14 pm

        I feel the same way- I really, really like drinking, but if I don’t do it, it’s not a big deal.

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        kerrycontrary July 11, 2013, 3:23 pm

        Yeh if you are fine with not drinking that you’re fine. And you probably won’t be able to drink as much once you have a baby, so that will automatically lessen the amount you drink.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:39 pm

        We’ve also said that we’re “living it up” right now because we know baby is on the horizon. So we’re trying as many beers as we can and going out a little more and just generally having more fun than “usual” because we know in a year or two we’ll be cutting or drinking and going out down to almost none.

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      CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 3:05 pm

      Occasionally on week nights I’ll have 2 or 3, but I tend to binge more on weekends. Last Saturday I had 2 beers with dinner and 3 beers at the bar? A couple weekends before that I was “wasty-face” and stayed out ALL NIGHT. Then the next day I gorged at a Chinese buffet. Mmmm, hangover food.

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      bethany July 11, 2013, 3:12 pm

      3 glasses of wine on a weeknight is normal. Any more than that is too many.

      I had about 6 drinks at a wedding on Saturday. One more and I would have been DRUNK. I’m glad I knew when to stop.

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      Lindsay July 11, 2013, 4:03 pm

      I don’t drink much in comparison to most people. I usually don’t drink more than once a week, and if so, it’s usually one or two drinks. Of course, there are exceptions. Somehow, it takes a lot to get me drunk, especially considering I’m pretty small.

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    katie July 11, 2013, 2:49 pm

    hm, i must have missed the boat on this one, because if im drunk, i just say “wow im drunk.” or if im really drunk, ill be like “wow, im really drunk”

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      lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:51 pm

      But what do you say before you’re drunk and after you’re sober?

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 2:56 pm

        I’d guess she probably says “wow, i’m before drunk and after sober”

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 2:58 pm

        ha

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 2:58 pm

        ^That was the funniest thing I’ve said in ages, for real I can’t stop laughing, why does it not already have 37 likes?

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        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 3:00 pm

        I did laugh out loud at that, for real

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        othy July 11, 2013, 4:55 pm

        I’m doing my part to like it, but my computer will only let me like it once.

        Maybe all of your adoring fans are out getting before drunk.

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 3:02 pm

        re: the post-sober and pre-drunk, i start to feel a tingly sensation down there – do you? so i say i’m feeling tingly. maybe no one gets it because no one feels tingly sensations? the first glass always gives me that.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:05 pm

        We used to call that the poon feeling in Jr. High.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:05 pm

        It happened when a boy would touch your thigh. haha

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:08 pm

        A girl I went to high school with always said her lip went numb, that was her sign. I get kind of tingly, but more in my gut and arms.

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        katie July 11, 2013, 4:16 pm

        oh, omg, when i had my tongue ring, my sign was that i couldnt feel it anymore! oh that was fun. i miss my tongue ring.

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        Lindsay July 11, 2013, 5:46 pm

        The first time my friend got drunk (at her bachelorette party that I was throwing), she was talking about her face being numb. That had not happened to me before, so I was like, uhh, are you having a stroke??

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        katie July 11, 2013, 4:15 pm

        you mean like after a glass or two and your starting to feel good? i say “wow, im getting drunk”

        seriously, i guess i have no imagination. lol

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    Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 2:49 pm

    In French the word “farted” is slang for drunk. Hier soir j’étais petée!

    I’d love for it to become slang in English: Damn I got soooo farted last night!

    ^ Seriously let’s get that started^

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      Miel July 11, 2013, 3:02 pm

      Wow, I had never made the translation this way.

      One thing to consider “petée” as in “j’étais petée !” means “broken” and I don’t think it’s related to “fart”, even if it’s the same word.

      “Je suis petée” as in “I’m broken” as in “I’m drunk”. Same meaning than “Tu as peté ma table !” as in “You broke my table”. It’s definitely all slang though.

      And you can use peté for drug effects too. (Actually, when I hear “je suis peté”, it means “I’m high on weed and it’s getting out of control”).

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 3:05 pm

        NO NO NO, we are using the FART translation and that is final. Gurrrl, I was so farted!

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 3:06 pm

        (I mean, when a world also means FART, I can’t think of anything else but FART.)

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        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 3:21 pm

        I will totally get farted with you, AFP.

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        mrmidtwenties July 11, 2013, 4:06 pm

        I’m totally bringing this into my life

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        Addie Pray July 11, 2013, 5:07 pm

        Cats, when are you coming to Chicago to get farted with me?

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        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 5:13 pm

        I’ll probably be there in August for the Wizard World Comic Con……. I’m going to dress up in my Exorcist costume again and get my pic taken with Linda Blair. That’s right, I’m dressing up for a convention. SUPER NERD.

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    SpaceySteph July 11, 2013, 1:56 pm

    My alcohol consumption is described thusly:
    1-2 drinks = feeling happy
    2-4 drinks = tipsy
    4-6 drinks = blitzed
    6+ drinks (or less if they were all shots in the period of about 20 minutes, not that I’ve done that, ahem)= Duh-runk (yes I say it like that, only more slurred)

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      SpaceySteph July 11, 2013, 1:58 pm

      This is also why when I throw work happy hours, I tell my coworkers to “come get happy”

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    TECH July 11, 2013, 3:04 pm

    I used to be pretty heavy drinker in my late teens and early 20’s. Now I probably drink once every week, if that. When I do drink it’s pretty moderate. What I find interesting is there’s tons of people I know who are 5-10 years out of college and still drink very heavily, but for them it’s not a problem.
    And probably the only reason it’s not classified as a “problem” is because they are still able to make responsible decisions and lead productive lives.
    Like, where do you draw the line between, “I’m just having fun” or “This is a problem.” I guess it’s a very grey area.
    Sometimes I envy people who can view heavy drinking so casually.
    I guess I’ve had too many alcoholics in my life.

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      lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:10 pm

      I’m curious how people feel about “highly functioning alcoholics” too. I think so long as you have your shit together (broad statement!), its fine.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:12 pm

        I’ll add, so long as you aren’t like, I won’t survive without a drink/I have the shakes, you are also ok.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:16 pm

        See, that’s the category I’m concerned I fall into! We drink, A LOT. But it 1- doesn’t interfere with our life 2- we don’t have a physical dependency and 3- we have our shit together! But having 3 beers every night seems…off? Too much? Normal? haha, I have no idea.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:18 pm

        And you can stop if you choose to/had to.
        3-4 every night would be too much for me. I need breaks, but I’ve never been like I NEED A BREAK. I jsut do it without thinking about it.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:25 pm

        Yeah, stopping at any point is totally fine/doable. Like I’m not having a beer tonight and it’s totally fine. I do get tired of it, like last night I wasn’t that interested but GGuy wanted to go to the brewery for the beer release. So I had a beer anyway because who goes to a brewery and doesn’t get a beer. hmmm.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:32 pm

        I didn’t want beer on Sunday night, but we went to summerfest and the opening band was kind of lame, and they kept having a billion commercials for miller light. Turns out I’m suggestible. Though I hate spending money on Miller Light.

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        TECH July 11, 2013, 3:16 pm

        I don’t know, it’s high functioning alcoholics I worry about the most. Because as long as you are high functioning you can keep it a secret from people. And you’ll never be convinced you need help or need change.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:19 pm

        But what are you worried about exactly? If they are obeying laws and getting their shit done, what do you think the problem is? (totally being serious, not snarky, if it sounds that way)

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        TECH July 11, 2013, 3:28 pm

        Well, there are a ton reasons why being an alcoholic is a problem, even if you are obeying laws. Alcoholism ruins relationships and families and your health.
        Sometimes I think I should refrain from alcohol conversations on DW because I always sound like such a buzzkill. I promise in real life I know how to have fun. And like I said I’ve done my fair share of drinking.
        I just have had like, at least 5 people in my family and friend group who have suffered from full blown alcoholism.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:34 pm

        I guess my question is: if you are still a good, decent, holding a job, not a drunk driving, able to handle your life, stop whenever you want person, who also has enough drinks daily to be considered an alcoholic, is that soo bad/what’s the issue?
        Maybe all those things mean you aren’t an alcoholic. I’m probably making no sense.
        (I know realize I sound pro-alcoholic, oops, I’m not)

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:37 pm

        LBH, I know what you mean. There are a lot of grey areas with the word and I think people’s definitions vary a lot.

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        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:38 pm

        No I think to be an alcoholic you HAVE to have one of the things happening you listed. Like your relationships have to be suffering (with more than just one person, like you can’t have a random cousin say that your drinking is affecting the relationship, it should be more than one person, and there has to be specific incidences that you can point too – like oh yeah I chose to get drunk at happy hour and missed my movie date with her) or you have to be drunk driving.

        The other problem is that there’s all kinds of alcoholism. Like Ethan is 100% genetically predisposed. Which originally was probably why he didn’t drink. He has bad alcoholism from both mom and dad. Whereas I think other people are more “situational” alcoholism. Where maybe something happens and then they start drinking and can’t stop.

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        TECH July 11, 2013, 3:38 pm

        If you can stop whenever you want, I guess you’re not considered an alcoholic. I think the definition of an alcoholic is someone who cannot control their drinking.

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        theattack July 11, 2013, 3:39 pm

        Well there are obviously health concerns, being a good role model for your kids, making good decisions, being the best you can be and reaching your potential, etc.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:44 pm

        Thats for replying all, without saying I sound like an idiot. haha

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        Lindsay July 11, 2013, 3:53 pm

        I agree with that theattack said. Drinking certain amounts of alcohol does increase the risk of some health problems, but each individual has to determine how it relates to their health. Like my roommate has a higher genetic risk of breast cancer, so she avoids alcohol more than most.

        Also, I was talking to someone who was by no means an alcoholic once and they remarked that when they decided to stop drinking for a few weeks, it was much more difficult than they expected it to be. And that they seemed at a loss at first as to how they could wind down. I don’t think that’s the same as not being able to stop, but I think it’s good to check in once in a while and make sure that a person isn’t too dependent on it.

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        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:20 pm

        Take it back! Pretty much everyone in Ethan’s family are “highly functioning” alcoholics, and it’s a huge problem. Just because you can take 8 shots of vodka in the morning and then pick your kids up from school does not mean you don’t have a problem. It just means you haven’t actually gotten in legal trouble yet.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:22 pm

        Sorry, I later included obeying laws as one of the parts of being highly functioning. And obviously I include being a half decent human being/parent.
        Now, what do you think with those included?

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:31 pm

        I think there is a HUGE distinction between someone who needs to take shots in the morning!! Daily! and a person who likes to have 2 glasses of wine in the evening. And anyone who is regularly driving drunk (with kids in the car?!?) has a serious problem.

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        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:34 pm

        The problem though, is that don’t think they have a problem. And it’s really hard to explain it to alcoholics when they haven’t had any “consequences” that are real. Although hopefully Ethan quit drinking – because he obviously did have a huge consequence.

        But GG I think you’re fine and need to let go of any guilt you have. If DOCTORS say you can have a glass or two of wine everyday, I believe them. As long as your relationships don’t suffer, you get to work, you feel healthy physically (like it’s not affecting your sleep or anything) you still have hobbies that don’t involve drinking, etc, you’re fine, and you fit into that category.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:44 pm

        I have people with substance abuse issues in my family (alcohol and drugs) and it’s really difficult. Getting them to admit they have a problem is the biggest hurdle. It totally sucks you had/have to deal with this.

        Thanks for giving me permission to not feel guilty. Some times you need a person on the internet to tell you you’re not crazy. GGuy’s family plays it up that we’re the drinkers and it gets really annoying. His mom maybe has a glass of wine a month and it’s always giving us hell for our drinking choices. Which definitely plays into my guilt feeling.

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        iwannatalktosampson July 11, 2013, 3:52 pm

        Yeah I can see both sides. I mean everyone has the amounts they consider to be too much, so maybe for his mom your guys’ drinking IS too much. But it’s not for you guys because you’re bigger drinkers. But even I worry sometimes that I’m that person that really is drinking too much and I am also in denial, because 95% of people with alcohol problems won’t admit they have one. That’s why I think you have to occasionally check in with yourself and your very close loved ones (that you trust – I mean obvs not his mom) and reflect.

        For me I never worry about it because I am very much a situational drinking. Pretty much I quit every year in January and February because I’m so sick of food and booze from the holidays, which starts in like October for me. And really my heavy drinking starts at football season, and then ends at the new year. But really I also drink a lot all summer, because I live in Colorado, enough said. So now that I think about it I drink a lot all year, haha. Well, 8 months of the year. May-December.

        I had to tell my extended family this weekend about Ethan (thanks mom for the heads up that you hadn’t told them! That was fun to discuss while drunk) and one of my cousins (in his 40’s) was like oh that makes sense, I was wondering why all your pictures of facebook now involve you drinking. And I have to say it kind of caught me off guard, because I drank a lot with Ethan too, just not in the months of his decline, because I didn’t feel safe doing so. But it is funny to look at your life through other people’s eyes.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 4:04 pm

        I think the checking in thing is a huge point…I’m constantly checking my drinking and we constantly talk about what’s acceptable. I don’t think alcoholics care what is or is not acceptable.

        We also drink more heavily during the summer and football season. January and February are usually light months for us. We actually too all of January off- 30 whole days booze free. It was pretty nice. Maybe next Jan we’ll do a DW no drinking January. (Unless the Eagles make the play offs, but let’s be realistic.)

        I don’t think your pictures are too boozy…but my pictures are of either beer or food or my cat so! It is interesting to have others give their perspective on your life, which is why I love DW!

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        Lindsay July 11, 2013, 4:27 pm

        So, I don’t want to sound like I’m commenting on YOUR drinking, because I’m not. Because I agree about checking in. What you said about people caring vs. not caring just made me think of this.

        II think it’s important for people to not just see alcoholics as only deadbeats who miss work and think it’s OK to take shots at 9 a.m. Like there are some who don’t care what is acceptable to drink, and some who do. I knew a guy who I’m fairly convinced was an alcoholic. (He’d ALWAYS bring over a six-pack of beer for himself to events even if no one else was drinking, and when we went on a road trip once, he got super, super agitated because we had missed the window for buying alcohol to take back to our hotel room, among other things.) Anyway, he made remarks about his level of drinking and acknowledged that it was probably too much. But he clearly either just wasn’t ready to stop or couldn’t parse out too much drinking vs. drinking problem vs. alcoholism.

        If that makes sense.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 4:21 pm

        Some times you need a person on the internet to tell you you’re not crazy.

        The irony of this being posted on DW is killing me. Sometimes you need just the opposite…that you are crazy!

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        katie July 11, 2013, 5:33 pm

        i think that the whole thing can be summed up pretty much with “dependency”. people who drink any amount of alcohol dont have problems unless they are dependant- so, they cant go out and have a good time without drinking. thats a dependency. they cant physically not drink (like in late stages of heavy alcoholism)- thats a physical dependency. ect.

        so thats the question you have to ask yourself- am i dependent. i drink pretty frequently, but i know im not dependent on it. i go long random stretches without drinking. i dont need to, but i do like to, so i do.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 5:34 pm

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    mandalee July 11, 2013, 3:59 pm

    Tipsy is what I pretend to be when I’m actually wasted but in denial. I’ve been known to yell “I’m just tipsy, I’m fine” right before or after dancing alone on a dance floor, making friends with the band, or hugging random people.

    Also, I love that this was posted on a day where I have done some massive day drinking without any guilt. It’s my last day of vacation, everyone else is working, I’m 27 as of today (ugh), and well the weather was depressing. So, mimosas and Southern Tier Dark Pale Ale for the win.

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    bethany July 11, 2013, 3:20 pm

    I feel like this is the appropriate place to share that I just was drinking this at my desk:

    Sometimes we do beer tastings at work 🙂

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      rachel July 11, 2013, 3:21 pm

      1. It’s too early in the year for pumpkin beers.

      2. I’m so jealous.

      3. How was it?

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:23 pm

        Have you ever heard of flights? Its like little wine samples. Just learned about it.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 3:26 pm

        I don’t think it’s technically a pumpkin beer- that’s just the name of the Brewery?
        It was interesting. It was sour, for sure. I don’t think I could have had an entire glass. S sample was enough.

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:28 pm

        Oh, I just glanced at it, that makes sense. I like some sour beers, but they’re definitely hard to drink a lot of.

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      GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:23 pm

      What?? Beer tastings at work??

      I wish there where more beer drinkers in the DW world. I love talking about beer.

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 3:23 pm

        Ever hear of Shipyard?

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:33 pm

        Yup. All I’ve tried is the Pumpkin one and I do not care for Pumpkin beers.

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        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 3:55 pm

        Aw, I love pumpkin beers!

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        lets_be_honest July 11, 2013, 4:23 pm

        Their brewery is right by where I go on vacation in the summer. Love their beers.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 3:27 pm

        I work with a few guys who are REALLY into craft beers. In another hour or so, I’m tasting one guy’s 2nd batch of home brew!

        I’ve had Pliney the Elder. Are you impressed?

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:31 pm

        Ooh, Ross loves that beer, but I haven’t ever had the chance to try it.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 3:35 pm

        Personally, it didn’t rock my world, but I thought it was good. The one guy at work freaked out over it. Like almost made a scene!

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 3:37 pm

        I want to work where you work.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:34 pm

        Yes! I haven’t even tried it. GGuy is seriously trying to convince me home brewing is a good idea, but we do not have the space. I’d be totally on board if we had the room!

        We have this cool app (Untappd) that is like a beer rating app. You log your beers and what you thought etc.

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        bethany July 11, 2013, 4:35 pm

        The homebrew was pretty good! It was a Belgian White Style.

        Now I want to go home and drink 🙂

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        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 4:57 pm

        This is making me want to drink too. Luckily, I don’t have any booze in my apartment right now because I totally need to study. But tomorrow, after my midterm, I am totally getting day drunk.

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        mandalee July 11, 2013, 3:44 pm

        I love beer! We just got back from Portland and Napa Valley and Napa was fun because of wine and all that jazz, but omg Portland and craft beer. I drank so many “samples” I was so wasted by the end of the day.

        My husband and I literally plan all of our weekend trips around proximity to breweries we haven’t been to.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:46 pm

        Have you heard of the Untappd app? We plan our trips around breweries too.

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        mandalee July 11, 2013, 3:48 pm

        I haven’t. I’m terrible at technology and apps, but I’ll have to look it up! We hit about 8 breweries in Portland and it would have been nice to remember the names of some of the beer/breweries in general.

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        GatorGirl July 11, 2013, 3:49 pm

        Definitely look it up! It’s super helpful if you like to try beers (and are terrible at remembering if you liked them, like I am). And you can have “Untappd” friends and see their beers and reviews. And there are badges for like trying 25 IPA’s or visiting breweries in 5 states. Lots of fun things 😛

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        rachel July 11, 2013, 4:02 pm

        Ross and I went to Great American Beer Fest a few years ago, and since we knew we wouldn’t remember shit about which beers we liked after trying SO MANY of them, we started texting each other the names of the good ones. Except we were pretty drunk by the time we thought this was a good idea, so we weren’t very consistent, and the texts weren’t all that legible

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        CatsMeow July 11, 2013, 3:57 pm

        I thought we had quite a few beer lovers here! I’m one of them.

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    Fabelle July 11, 2013, 6:40 pm

    So, to the alcoholism thing (because I can’t leave this thread without addressing at least ONE serious issue mentioned)—I forget when, but somebody on here (pretty certain it was Budj, actually??) brought up the “levels of alcoholism” thing. Like there’s level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and most people hover around 2-3 (or 4?) but others will jump from 1 to 5 super quick, others will slowly progress from 1 to 5, etc. I thought that was interesting, & encompassed most of the “shades of gray” you guys were discussing above. (Aaand hopefully someone else remembers/knows what I’m talking about? because this is ~not~ very clear. Because… I’m tipsy 😉 )

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    AliceInDairyland July 11, 2013, 6:54 pm

    Ugh, this is probably too late for this… but I wanted to poll the people of DW:

    What was your exposure to drinking when you grew up, and do you think it was good/bad/neutral?

    For example, at my house my parents really only drank at family gatherings, and my dad always got really shit-faced every year for the beginning of March Madness and had like 30 of his guy friends come over and get shit faced. Otherwise no one really ever drank in the house ever. So for me, beer was kind of this weird thing that you only drink 1-3 times a year and 1 time out of the year it makes you absolutely horrendous to be around. In high school I was really terrified to drink, and didn’t start drinking until college and it really took me a while to feel comfortable and safe about it.

    When I went to Italy (I was 20 at the time) we had a glass of wine every day at lunch, and about 2-3 glasses of wine with dinner PLUS some sort of limoncello, grappa, etc after dinner with our dessert. Every, freaking day. And I had no tolerance which meant I was sheep herding a little buzzed most afternoons. At a party they had everyone drank but no one drank out of control (like my dad’s parties) and the kids even drank diluted wine with dinner.

    I feel like I want to be a family where drinking a glass of wine at dinner isn’t some sort of big-weird-scary thing, but I also never want to get shit-faced in front of my children. Aka, booze in moderation is not a big deal but just be smart around it. That’s the lesson I want to send.

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    • Fabelle

      Fabelle July 11, 2013, 7:11 pm

      My family has always drank in front of me, as far back as I can recall? My mom would be visibly tipsy sometimes (oh god, now I’m just using the word “tipsy” in earnest? haha) but never out-of-control, & sometimes my dad would get drunk enough to start being obnoxious & out-of-character (usually at bigger gatherings, & if he was drinking whiskey…) So, like, I would say I was exposed to moderate drinking (wine with dinner, beer & watching TV, etc.) most of the time, but I’ve definitely seen my parents drunk (more so when I was an adult)

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      • Fabelle

        Fabelle July 11, 2013, 7:12 pm

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      Lindsay July 11, 2013, 7:12 pm

      My parents didn’t drink in front of me hardly at all. Occasionally I’d see a remnants of six-pack of beer that was presumably crammed in the back of the fridge or my mom and grandma would usually drink beer together when we visited her, but I didn’t really know what it was at the time. My extended family doesn’t drink at all. So, no alcohol at family gatherings, including weddings.

      Thus, I think that I am less likely to alcohol as a crucial part of life and/or celebrations, and it’s probably why I don’t drink much. I very rarely buy alcohol to have at home except for parties. I’m pretty happy with my lack of alcohol consumption, so I’d say it was a good influence.

      I think that being around other people who drink alcohol frequently but moderately has probably taught me to be less uptight about it, though.

      (And that DIY wine cooler you made sounds delicious!)

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      AliceInDairyland July 11, 2013, 6:57 pm

      PS I went to a street fair put on by my grocery co-op and I got an absolutely delicious dinner, AND a free glass of nice wine. Which I dumped into my half-full glass of local honey-sweetened-cherry-soda and it became this bubbly wine cooler of absolute to die for deliciousness.

      And tonight I am going to a cocktail-making-lesson at a local distillery where we learn how to make cocktails using fruits and vegetables from a local CSA in the area. And we get goat cheese appetizers to eat with it.

      I LOVE MY DRUNKIE HIPSTER LIFE.

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      rachel July 11, 2013, 9:28 pm

      I was raised by my mom and she doesn’t drink at all, because my father was an alcoholic (mean drunk). So, I literally was never around alcohol at home. When I was at friends’ houses I would see their parents have a beer sometimes, but that’s about it. I think, it was probably bad, haha. Because once I started drinking I had no real concept of limits or that alcohol could just be enjoyed as is, and I would just drink whatever was handed to me until I threw up.

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    • katie

      katie July 11, 2013, 10:28 pm

      ohh good question.

      i had the drink casually family who also gave it to their kids- so i have been “drinking” since i can remember, pretty much? my dad drinks this fruity delicious thing he calls a planters punch (rum, orange juice, pineapple juice, grenadine), and he would give me sips when we would go out to dinner. my mom always drank wine, she used to sell it, so she is way into it. she tried to get me to drink wine forever when i was young- but of course, until you have the taste for it, wine tastes terrible. i guess i had a very european way of growing up.

      in high school i really only “partied” this one summer- between my sophomore and junior year. it was the best summer ever. my 4 friends and i found this group of boys that had just graduated, and we partied with them like literally 3 nights a week. it was probably bad, my friends were younger then i was, but they werent like predatory bad guys. other then that summer drinking in high school was really few and far between. college was a much different story though… going to a culinary school, weekend wine parings and fancy cocktails are a thing. i drank a good amount in college, lol.

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      GatorGirl July 12, 2013, 8:37 am

      My memories of alcohol’s roll in my childhood are limited. My mom has not enjoyed the taste of alcohol of any kind since she gave birth to my sister when I was 8, so I pretty much have never seen her drink. My biological father went to jail on involuntary manslaughter due to a drunk driving accident when I was very young, but I don’t remember anything about his drinking and didn’t learn why he was in jail until I was 20ish. My stepfather has had 2 to 4 beers every night since I can remember. He’s been in my life since I was 6 or 7. I do have two uncles (well 3 technically but one was kicked out of the family for a while) who have had drug and alcohol abuse problems my entire life. But my mom kept me pretty much away from them

      We’ve NEVER had alcohol at family events. Never a DROP. It’s an old school Quaker family where women were expected to wear skirts to family events until like 1995. It was a shock when I had wine at my college graduation.

      So basically my examples are extremes. Not a single drop or drinking problem. My stepdad never gets drunk or really intoxicated but he will go out of his way to have a beer, so I really don’t know where to classify him.

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      bethany July 12, 2013, 9:02 am

      No one in my family was a big drinker until I came along 🙂

      My dad drank a beer while watching golf. Frequently it was non-alcoholic beer. My parents would occasionally have a glass of wine. No one in my extended family drank much either. There were never drunken scenes at holidays or anything like that.

      My parents both drink a bit more now, what with Wine Club and everything. And my cousins drink now, so there’s usually booze at family events, but it’s still pretty scaled back.

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  • bittergaymark

    bittergaymark July 12, 2013, 2:33 am

    Eh, the only way I would ever say, ” I wanna go out get hammered” would be if Armie Hammer was going to cross my path… Seriously. Was everybody polled 17?

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      GatorGirl July 12, 2013, 8:23 am

      They polled 145 undergraduate students- so yes they probably where between 17 and 22.

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