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If They Asked: Tom Cruise Should Come Out of the Closet

The internet was abuzz on Friday with news of Tomkat’s breakup, and while it certainly was no surprise that the marriage of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes didn’t last — Cruise’s previous two marriages also ended in divorce — I’d be shocked if the world’s most famous Scientologist remains single for too long. Chances are, another marriage contract will be offered to another desperate starlet, though if Tom Cruise were to ask me my advice, I’d suggest he just come out of the closet already and wave his rainbow pride flag with the same gusto he exhibited years ago on Oprah’s couch. I know we still have a long way to go toward gay acceptance in this country, however crazy that seems in the year 2012, but what is the guy afraid of? At 50, his career has a bigger chance of being negatively affected by his age than his sexual persuasion. I’d even argue that if he can act the fool as he already has for the last two decades what with all his weirdo religion stuff and manic behavior and still get paid millions to make movies, then coming out as a big ol’ queen isn’t going to hurt him either.

And so what if it does? At least he’ll be free. At least he can openly love who he loves and won’t have to hide anymore. And if America truly isn’t ready to embrace a gay action star or whatever it is he is these days — wasn’t his last movie role in a musical, anyhow? — and he never makes another movie again, who cares? It’s not like he’ll ever run out of money. It’s not like he can’t find a million other things to fill his time, like knocking therapy, and visiting his home planet.

So, go for it, Tom. Announce your gayness. Put your action roots to use and kick down the closet doors once and for all. Maybe Travolta and Clooney will follow you out.

Oh, and Katie, here’s my advice to you: Go underground for, like, three years until all of this blows over and you drop way off everyone’s radar. Then stage a big comeback with a movie in which you play a transgendered cancer patient (Oscar!), and get knocked up by that guy Jennifer Aniston is currently dating. A celebrity love triangle scandal is just what you need to erase the lobotomized Mrs. Cruise image from the collective conscious. Good luck!

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avatar Taylor July 2, 2012, 12:10 pm

Ok, this probably sounds naive, but were all three of his marriages an image thing then? That’s just so sad.

Cheers to Anderson Cooper btw, who made a lovely statement about privacy, respect and pride (yesterday I think)!

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:00 pm

I’ll have to check out his latest statement — but Cooper has been as big a closet case as anybody…

avatar Savannah July 2, 2012, 10:25 pm

glass closet though.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:12 pm

Are you “allowed” to be gay in Scientology? Could that possibly be the reason, because everything Wendy is saying is true.

Also, CLOONEY?!?

avatar Jenny July 2, 2012, 12:14 pm

I REFUSE to believe Clooney is gay. Just not buying it. There needs to be at least one straight man that is that handsome and charming and witty. Just ONE. So yeah, Clooney is straight.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:19 pm

I read a while back about Clooney. It made me so sad that I had to repress it. So thanks Wendy, for that.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:20 pm

Maybe being gay (and in the closet) is a requisite to be in Scientology (I mean, Tom Cruise, John Travolta…)

avatar cporoski July 2, 2012, 1:09 pm

I heard that Scientology believes you can “cure” being gay.

avatar MsMisery July 2, 2012, 1:12 pm

Yeah, I’ve read that gay isn’t allowed in Scientology, and they will try to cure it with their electrocans of magic. Then again, I read that in the tabloids. Not exactly Wikipedia….

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 12:19 pm

I’m so glad you posted this!

I read this morning that women were interviewed for the role of Tom’s wife. They wanted to interview Jessica Alba, Jennifer Garner and Scarlet Johannsen (sp?). Then they read something Katie Holmes had said about growing up and marrying TC. He thought she was attractive enough so done.

This comes from Andrew Morton, who authored a biography of TC.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:25 pm

Soo weird. If it were 1950, I’d understand hiding it, but jeez!

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:34 pm

Wow. If that is true that´s so terrible. And I don´t know which side is sadder (apart from Suri´s, of course)

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 12:52 pm

Right?

From the NY Post: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/best_supporting_actress_REdKcnpi4xPjBFGO4Yjp4M/0

They don’t get to the Katie Holmes part until the last page and basically said she was gullible enough to bite.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:00 pm

Great article, thanks.
I really don´t get how so many people are into Scientology, everything I´ve ever read about it make it seem so crazy!

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:02 pm

Crazy ass allegations in there. Too crazy to be true?

JK-I think its desperate/gullible people who want to be a part of something.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:05 pm

True, maybe it´s the sense of exclusivity: I mean, if you have to pay so much money to be highly ranked, maybe that means it MUST be good?
(Not my actual opinion)

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 1:14 pm

Yeah, it’s a little crazy. Even if it’s false, I still think the marriage was a sham.

avatar CG July 2, 2012, 6:56 pm

Part of the thing with Katie too is that supposedly she was knocked up when she and Chris Klein split and she couldn’t have an out-of-wedlock baby since she’s Catholic, and along came the crazy-eyed midget with his marriage contract. So there are lots of rumors and conspiracy theories that Suri was really born about three months before her “official” birthday, because if people did the math, they’d realize Katie was already preggo when she and TC signed their deal.

avatar Taylor July 2, 2012, 9:47 pm

She really looks like Tom Cruises’s kid though!

Jessibel5 Jessibel5 July 2, 2012, 12:19 pm

I refuse to believe that Clooney’s gay too! One of my friends called him “This generation’s Rock Hudson” and I told him to shut his mouth and if he opened it again I was going to start feeling stabby.

I don’t think Tom Cruise is worried about his career, more his religion. I don’t know much about Scientology, but I doubt they approve of homosexuality. That organization has such a hold on his life that he probably CAN’T come out.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:28 pm

The other day I was reading about how Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes all divorced him at 33. Coincidence?

I really don´t get what the big deal is about coming out of the closet (Scientology aside). I mean, are there seriously prople that would stop going to see a movie of his just because he´s gay? They even put up with his crappy acting, what difference would it make that he prefers guys? And he´s not exactly a heart throb anymore, is he? And even if he were, look at that guy from White Collar, he´s definitely got his female following regardless.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:31 pm

I know with Nicole Kidman, there was some talk about a pre-nup that gave her a LOT more once they hit 10 years, so he divorced her like a month prior to that.

Jessibel5 Jessibel5 July 2, 2012, 12:36 pm

Tom Cruise also came out with a really cryptic response when asked about why the divorce. His comment was something like “Nicole knows what she did” :shudder:
I doubt she did anything.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:36 pm

That’s right! It was very weird, and then he kept their adopted children and she never sees them anymore. Whole thing was bizarre.

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 12:40 pm

I always thought it odd never to see Nicole with her two adopted kids. I had no idea Cruise shut her out. I feel so bad for them, the kids that is.

avatar Lydia July 2, 2012, 3:48 pm

“I mean, are there seriously prople that would stop going to see a movie of his just because he´s gay?”

Yes. Sadly, some people definitely would.

avatar amy July 2, 2012, 12:29 pm

Love this.

Speaking of coming out, does anyone think that John Travolta is being railroaded? Even if he is gay, why NOW? Why is everyone coming out NOW to say that he misbehaved at the masseuse? It’s like… one thing happens… then everyone who is anyone is jumping on the bandwagon to get their name in the news. If it’s true, my apologies to those coming out. But if none of it is true, I feel pretty bad for the guy.

With Tom and Katie’s divorce, there are rumors that there was a 5 year contract for her to stay married, and now the contract is up, so she’s leaving… I mean… come on, right? I am HUUUUUGE on the celebrity gossip, it’s my guilty pleasure I guess, but sometimes things are absurd. I find the contract, and everyone coming out of the woodwork on Travolta very odd.

avatar amy July 2, 2012, 12:30 pm

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH, I just remembered, Travolta is into scientology as well. (thank you south park for pointing that out lol)

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 12:37 pm

I acutally thought the Katie Holmes/Tom Cruise marriage was a sham from the beginning. It reeked of a publicity stunt. I mean, who goes that crazy on Oprah’s couch?

avatar amy July 2, 2012, 12:44 pm

LOL. I remember hearing that he fell in love with Katie homes after watching ALL seasons of Dawson’s Creek, reached out to her, then they got married.

Joey Potter in Dawson’s Creek was the most annoying character ever. She was so miserable, all the time. How you could fall in love with that, I am not sure.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:46 pm

And wasn´t she playing like a 15 year old? At the beginning, at least. Gross.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:48 pm

Speaking of…am I the only one grossed out by the Kardashian little sisters being prostituted out on tv in the tiniest of bikinis? Bagge?

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:25 pm

Not me. It’s good practice for the only thing they’ll ever be which is reality star whores… Can’t wait for their sex tapes. However will they top Dim Kim though? Zoophilia is my best guess…

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:13 pm

Its gotta be the most disturbing yet, imo. I get the adults want to make $ any way possible, but to basically provide pedophiles with images of teenagers? Gross.

Lili Lili July 2, 2012, 3:18 pm

KJ needs her next hot kid-KK’s over the hill now. Plus, the younger Jenners are thinner and taller. More appeal. amirite?!

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 12:53 pm

Right? Joey Potter? Come on.

I have to say, I didn’t like Michelle Williams character, Jen, either. But she is pretty awesome now.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 12:29 pm

I´m racking my brain trying to remember which lucky DWer actually met George Clooney (discussed on the Open Thread a while back). I´d be curious to know what she thinks about these mean mean rumours. :)

avatar Tracey July 2, 2012, 12:34 pm

“So, go for it, Tom. Announce your gayness. Put your action roots to use and kick down the closet doors once and for all. Maybe Travolta and Clooney will follow you out.”

Wendy, you made my day with this one. Come on, Tom, John, Kanye (there, I said it), and all the rest…just follow the path that Anderson Cooper just set for you this weekend. You don’t have to be overly dramatic, just say it and live your life already. You’ll be happier and glad you did.

You really think Clooney’s gay? O_o

avatar AnotherWendy July 2, 2012, 10:50 pm

Kanye too?! Hadn’t heard that before so I must go Google now!

avatar sarolabelle July 2, 2012, 12:46 pm

I don’t think Tom Cruise is gay…it’s like saying Elizabeth Taylor was gay – she was married 8 times!

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:03 pm

That’s not at all the same thing. Elizabeth Taylor believed she had to be married to the person she was having sex with. It was the era.

avatar MsMisery July 2, 2012, 1:15 pm

Pretty sure Liz Taylor was a beard a couple of times, though.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 12:57 pm

You know, everyone seems to feel bad or sympathize with Katie Holmes, but really, this is someone who knew what she was getting into presumably and if she is so scared of this cult, why put your own child at risk of joining it? Did she think it’d be easy to not have that happen?

One other thought, how come its widely accepted to bash this “religion” but no other religions? Weird. Not that I don’t think its a cult, I’m def not defending Scientology.

avatar jlyfsh July 2, 2012, 1:14 pm

i don’t think it’s recognized everywhere as a religion, which could lead to many people not considering it one. and as difficult as some religions may be for people to understand, i think some of scientology’s core beliefs are really hard for people to understand. i think the fact that so much of it is very secretive also makes it easier to bash?

FireStar FireStar July 2, 2012, 1:54 pm

It is however officially recognised as a cult in some countries.

avatar jlyfsh July 2, 2012, 1:58 pm

very interesting! i did not know that. i knew it wasn’t recognized as a religion everywhere, but not that.

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 1:16 pm

I agree about the Katie Holmes thing. I don’t feel sorry for her. She thought she was getting her fairy tale and didn’t stop to think about what was really happening.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:49 pm

Maybe it´s because the “founder” was a sci-fi author known for his lies (and who supposedly said he was going to start a religion to get rich?)
Maybe it´s because the “beliefs” are just so ridiculous?

avatar Desiree July 2, 2012, 2:52 pm

It probably has something to do with it being more modern and started by a Scifi writer. Many other religions have long and extensive histories and cultural entrenchment, which probably gives them more credibility.

avatar AnotherWendy July 2, 2012, 11:02 pm

I think its easier to bash because it was invented in the 1950s. There’s no thousands of years of believers, sacred texts, and scholary study of it. They are all pretty much first generation Scientologists, no street cred yet, lol!

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:06 pm

Thanks for the laugh on a Monday morning. Tom should take a page from Anderson Cooper. Everyone everywhere knew that guy was gay, but he managed to keep his private life private so it wasn’t a big deal. Now Tom can’t come out because he’s made sure it’ll be the biggest coming-out in the history of the world. Good job, Tom.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:07 pm

Can you even think of an actor who came out any time in the past 10–15 years that lost out on roles for being gay? They are practically rewarded with fame and magazine covers for coming out.

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:15 pm

Of course they get good publicity nowadays. I’m just saying that Tom has made his sexuality such a huge deal that he has to have a huge set of balls to come out now.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:19 pm

Yea, you and BGM provide a real good reason why he shouldn’t now after all this time.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:56 pm

Actually, the guy from My Best Friend’s Wedding has had a horrible time. Rupert Everett. He was AMAZING in that, very butch, too. And yet his career cooled considerably. He remains very bitter about it, actually, and has stated numerous time that his advise to actors regarding the closet?

“Stay in!”

JK JK July 2, 2012, 2:06 pm

Maybe the awful surgeries he had done had something to do with it, as well. He looks terrible!
http://www.dstv.com/News/Plastic-Fantastic/71741

avatar Christy July 2, 2012, 2:15 pm

I think it might have been the time. Ellen needed a freaking magazine cover, Anderson gets to do it in an interview with a pal.

avatar painted_lady July 2, 2012, 3:04 pm

I definitely think timing had something to do with it, but I also think, honestly, he’s a little limited in what roles he can play. Between his look, his voice (great voice, but very distinctive) and now all of the awful crap he’s done to his face. And yes, he definitely got pigeonholed into playing the gay best friend and the pompous villain, but I also heard from someone who worked on a film set with him that he’s an incredibly unpleasant human being. He has every right to be bitter, but in the end, now that the world is a tiny bit more accepting, it’s not doing him any favors because all the people who would be 100% okay casting a gay man in a non-stereotypical role won’t work with him because of what he’s like. It’s sad, really, because what little I have seen of him, he’s got brilliant comic timing.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:26 pm

Was he that big of deal before that though? I don’t think so.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:32 pm

No, he wasn’t. But that role SHOULD have made him a star. It was a huge hit, and it didn’t. And had he played the game and said he was straight, he probably would have been the next James Bond… THAT possibility WAS actually kicked around but the powers that be decided the public wouldn’t go for a gay James Bond… So yeah, the offers dried up for a good long while… I think Rupert is right, it effectively KILLED his career in Hollywood. Look, you know your film career is in REAL trouble when the only leading role offered to you is in a good friend’s movie and that good friend is… Madonna. (The Next Best Thing.)

JK JK July 2, 2012, 3:35 pm

I´ll never forgive whoever made the decision that it wasnpt Robbie WIlliams. God he´s gorgeous. And supposedly in the closet as well.
SIgh. Why are all my celebrity crushes gay?

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:36 pm

Actually, I think he’s on record as being BI. But I could be wrong… I mean, he even did a dance song all about Madonna. Not exactly discreet! ;)

JK JK July 2, 2012, 3:40 pm

Thank goodness I´m married, otherwise I would have you analyzing every guy I liked to see if he was straight or not. :D

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q-hHDAJAEA

JK JK July 2, 2012, 5:46 pm

Awesome, thanks!

avatar jessicaday July 2, 2012, 8:14 pm

Ellen talked about how hard it was for her after coming out at Tulane’s 2009 commencement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JccudODwwY

She gets to it about halfway through, but it’s worth watching the whole thing.

avatar Mainer July 2, 2012, 1:08 pm

Scientology doesn’t really discriminate against homosexuals. They did way back when everyone else did, but they’ve actually relaxed a lot and have recognized that – being a minority themselves – they shouldn’t discriminate. People just think they do because they one day added “Church” in front of their name (since they strived to be recognized as a “religion” and all).

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:10 pm

The fact that they call themselves a church is not even close to a reason I assumed they were anti-gay, but anyway…are there any famous outed gays in Scientology?

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:19 pm

I’m interested in this answer as well.

avatar Mainer July 2, 2012, 1:23 pm

Not that I know of, otherwise I’m sure you would have read about it since almost anyone famous who comes out is a headline. There have been a fair amount of gay activists who openly embrace being both gay and a scientologists though. They’re kind of all over the map – they were not in favor of Prop 8, but then again they’ve had spokespeople say they embrace all walks of people into their organization and don’t discriminate against race, color, sexual orientation, etc. They’re whole “philosophy” (not counting some of the the nutty ways they approach it) is to come to a full understanding of you as an individual, so shunning someone for being gay seems to go against that very principle. The idea is that if you fully understand yourself, you can fully understand others, and as such you can understand the meaning of life. Or something like that, that may be a little bit too broad of a summary of their beliefs.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:26 pm

Mainer, I think you have some serious misinformation on Scientology and homosexuality. I have heard quite the opposite to be true…

avatar Mainer July 2, 2012, 1:31 pm

Yeah, in the 40s and 50s, not to mention the founder was a homophobe and some of his earlier writings discouraged it. But pretty much starting in the 2000s and the “modern” scientology groups seem to have no problem with homosexuals and in fact have supported a few events and featured gay followers in some of their publications.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:35 pm

Eh, agree to disagree on this, I guess. My sources here in Hollywood says that they think being gay is fine, but you can’t practice it. In other words you are supposed to remain celibate. Which is about as anti-gay as you can get…

avatar Mainer July 2, 2012, 3:18 pm

They tell homosexuals to remain celibate because sex should only be used to procreate. They have this weird view that sex is a form of degradation, and it can be used to harm people or exert control over them (there is some conspiracy theory they have on this that I can’t remember the details on, something about using sex as a means of controlling people and bringing them down). Anyway, it’s a consistent message across the board and isn’t really specific to homosexuals, which is why I never looked at it as “discriminatory,” just fucked up. Homosexuals just get the shaft (not literally) because it applies to all of them, as oppose to only a select heterosexual group (depending on the stage of life they’re in). So in that sense, the group is inherently not made for homosexuals, but they still accept them into their group and don’t hate them just because they’re gay.

This is just stuff I gathered from reading up on them. I don’t know any scientologists personally, I just found the big hype on the group over the past few years interesting so did some casual research. It could be way off, as there will always be a disconnect between what I read and what is really practiced, so if it is off I apologize and don’t mean to offend or have those views come across as my own. I think we can all agree they’re not exactly a winner as far as groups to belong to goes. My original comment was in response to scientology being the reason Tom Cruise hasn’t come out, when in fact they wouldn’t really care. In fact, the more money a person gives them the more accepting they are of that person. So he doesn’t really have any motivation to “stay straight” just because he is a scientologists.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:12 pm

Cruise can’t come out now because the LIE is simply TOO BIG. He’s had — what? Not one, not two, but THREE sham marriages? And the American public doesn’t like to be lied to (unless its by politicians, who all lie anyway.) So, no, Cruise won’t come out. It’d be super hot though if he, and say… Jeremy Renner Ran off together.

And wake up, people. CLOONEY is so gay it’s hilarious… A man THAT good looking, THAT rich, THAT successful and always the constant bachelor? Ahem. Yeah, right….

Others obviously gay that american women are simply too in love with to figure out…

Will Smith (he and Jada are legendary con artists here, and it’s a good deal for Jada her own double life matches up rather nicely with his…)

Hugh Jackman (hello! talk about obvious! That young “business partner”/former production assistant who moved immediately into the guest house and then traveled everywhere with the happy Jackmans… The “ring” he and Hugh exchanged to celebrate their business together with the clubby sanskrit inscription inside. Oh, and then the big BREAK UP which was of course all just professional… They had different ideas for the business and blah blah blah…)

John Travolta (the man is famous for MUSICALS ;) )

Jeremy Renner (okay, not that obvious until you hear about his business partner who he flips houses with and have been “best friends” forever. Oh, and he was “hand picked” by Cruise as his Mission Impossible replacement…)

Bradley Cooper (actually all those rumours MAY be wishful thinking, but damn it’s a nice wish. And hey, we’ve already seen him bottom for another hot dude in WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER.)

Oh, and anybody feeling bad for Katie is an idiot — she was no doubt well paid for her efforts, and with filing in New York will continue to be VERY well paid. She’s making some serious bank.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:14 pm

:( You made me sad, BGM
Supposedly Will Smith is in Scientology, as well. Hmm…

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:17 pm

Yup, and the only person who defended TomKat’s marriage was Jada.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:16 pm

The whole too long of a lie thing makes a lot of sense actually.

Clooney though, if I were hot, rich and famous, I wouldn’t settle down either! Why not bang every hottie there ever was first?

Will Smith I agree with you on, but I think a lot of people think he’s gay. Hugh Jackman, fine, he is too hot to be gay, I need to fantasize about him, so no, he’s straight in my book. I actually met him and his family at a restaurant once. They all seemed very normal and nice, however, she’s not up to par with his hotness if you ask me.

Agreed 100% on having no pity for Katie Holmes.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:29 pm

Sorry to pop your HUGH bubble, LBH (or is this all payback for your horrible slam of Madonna a few days back) but here is the whole story… Although this is all prior to the break up.

http://www.eonline.com/news/the_awful_truth/hugh_jackmans_strange_setup/72973

avatar painted_lady July 2, 2012, 3:11 pm

Dear lord, I love me some Ted Casablanca. It’s so deliciously bitchy. Though it reads like Little House on the Prairie compared to Crazy Days and Nights. As someone who lives in LA and works in the film industry, what are your thoughts on the blind vices in those blogs?

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:14 pm

They annoy me as the are usually so vague that I think they are just making them up half the time…

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:28 pm

Noooooo! At least I was just teasing about Madonna, this is just cruel!

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 5:45 pm

Sorry, the truth hurts… ;)

avatar tbrucemom July 2, 2012, 4:04 pm

Agreed. Hugh Jackson is the one who if I found out was gay I’d be so bummed. He’s beyond yummy and his wife is not nearly as attractive. I’m sure she’s a fine wife and mother but based solely on looks she’s not close.

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:19 pm

Agree 100%

avatar bethany July 2, 2012, 1:24 pm

I refuse to live in a world where Bradley Cooper is gay. I’m sorry. I just can’t do it.
He’s soooo hot.

I think you’re right about the rest of it though.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:30 pm

See, I refuse to live in a world where Bradley Cooper IS straight. I’m sorry. I just can’t do it. He’s soooo hot….

avatar bethany July 2, 2012, 2:16 pm

At least we agree on the hotness!!! :)

avatar Anna July 2, 2012, 1:34 pm

I’m with Bethany. Bradley Cooper is hot and I refuse to believe he’s gay.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:37 pm

Historically, the hottest actors have all been gay or bisexual — which in the 1950 was gay but hiding it well… Rock Hudson. Cary Grant. James Dean. And lets not forget Harrison Ford.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:38 pm

Enough already, BGM! You´re killing me!!!!

Seriously? Tell us more!

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:49 pm

This will sound like bullshit, but a drunken Kiefer Sutherland once came to my Los Feliz apartment at two o’clock in the morning. He was casually dating a female friend of mine who lived in the building and they were looking for booze. Desperate for it, actually, as the Dresden Room across the street had closed.

I had plenty of vodka and so we all drank together till four in the morning.

It was all very surreal. See, it was a tuesday, so I was asleep when she knocked. Looking out the peephole, I only saw her so I opened the door in just my boxers. (It was a HOT summer night.) Anyway, imagine my surprise when her escort was 24′s own Kiefer…

Now, I honestly don’t ever think that ANYBODY wants to sleep with me, but I got a decidedly strong bi-guy-wants-to-try vibe from Mr. Sutherland that evening. He was oddly, flirtatious. And kind of touchy feel-ly for somebody I’d only just met.

My friend felt it to. And told me the next day she was dumping the TV Star as she had been badly burned by another closet case a while back. This of course pissed me off because I was like if you are going to dump some celebrity because you think he wants to bang me — next time please do it BEFORE the two of you leave my apartment. In fact, throw a huge scene! And storm out — leaving the two of us all alone…

Needless to say I never saw Mr. Sutherland again.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 1:51 pm

Awesome! Thanks!

avatar painted_lady July 2, 2012, 3:21 pm

Oh, that is AMAZING. Kiefer Sitherland is SO HOT, even though he obviously has issues. I’m so jealous – that could have made for the best story ever.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:30 pm

bi-guy-wants-to-try
Love it.

avatar Suzanne July 2, 2012, 1:40 pm

Harrison Ford LOL? Never heard that one.

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 2:10 pm

RIght? I can see some of the others BGM mentioned as being gay. I wouldn’t have guessed Harrison Ford.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 2:15 pm

Actually, that was just me being silly. There have never ever been any such rumors about Mr. Ford. He was just my first big Gay Crush! I wanted some serious Solo action, if you know what I mean. The kind of Solo action where neither of us would be alone… And don’t even get my started on Raider of the Lost Mark with Indiana Bones…

Budj Budj July 2, 2012, 2:34 pm

I just lol’d in my office. good ones.

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 2:55 pm

Thank you. For both the LOL and only wishing Ford was gay. I know she’s a little out there, but I like his marriage to Flockhart. I think they’re cute.

avatar GatorGirl July 2, 2012, 1:48 pm

I might actually cry if Bradley Cooper comes out. It crushed my dreams enough when Anderson came out today. Man he is beautiful.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 1:57 pm

Wait! Anderson FINALLY came out? Whoa…. I had no idea he had made it official. How interesting…

avatar GatorGirl July 2, 2012, 2:05 pm

Yes, it’s official now. I was holding out hope that I had a chance until he actually said it himself.

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/07/anderson-cooper-the-fact-is-im-gay.html

Lili Lili July 2, 2012, 3:09 pm

I had a major ladyboner when my college best friend/ life long crush had a on air reporting session with AC. He was reporting from Egypt and spoke with Anderson MULTIPLE times. I stalked each an every one of those segments.

avatar ele4phant July 2, 2012, 3:00 pm

It doesn’t matter one way or another to me if Clooney is gay – its not like I’d have a shot at him either way.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 1:20 pm

Look at all of us, no shame in the tabloid love!

avatar Anna July 2, 2012, 1:33 pm

HAHAHA!! This totally made me think about the Scientology episode of South Park where Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and R Kelly locked themselves in Stan’s closet. “Dad! Tom Cruise won’t come out of the closet!”

avatar Sue Jones July 2, 2012, 2:10 pm

Oh Geez! Who cares? I don’t really buy that Tom Cruise is gay. I think she is leaving because of the creepy Scientology stuff. They really brainwash the kids too and she is trying to protect her kid. I loved him in Rock of Ages, though. I am old enough to remember when people really dressed like that!

avatar Lindsay July 2, 2012, 2:49 pm

Yeah, this is actually the first I’ve heard of it. I try to ignore Tom Cruise as much as possible. So, I’m not completely sold. But, OMG, I loved him in “Rock of Ages,” too. I saw the musical on Broadway a few months ago (my first show ever) and was thrilled to find out a movie was coming out.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:31 pm

I think YOU must be in a closet to never have heard that Cruise is gay. (see what I did there folks, feeling very proud of myself)

Kristina Kristina July 2, 2012, 2:13 pm

I consider myself to be very accepting of other people’s religions and faith…then I dated a guy who was a Scientologist. And oh my god, so freaking weird. I’m sorry, but that is just a horrible cult in my opinion. There was some freaky stuff going on. I’m very religious myself as a Christian, but seriously religion telling people they can’t be gay or they can’t be this is so fucked up. I wish that all people could be free to live how they choose without thinking a religion can stop that. And yeah, I think Tom Cruise is probably gay.

Leroy Leroy July 2, 2012, 2:13 pm

I was with you ’til you recommended that Katie Holmes return to acting.

Transgender refrigerator box .. maybe.

JK JK July 2, 2012, 2:15 pm

I <3 you, Leroy. That´s the 2nd laugh you´ve gotten out of me today.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 2:19 pm

Seriously, some people should just quit. Katie has about as much to offer to acting world as I do to the field of medicine.

Moneypenny Moneypenny July 2, 2012, 2:53 pm

Hahaha! I love this comment. That’s about what it would be, too.

avatar AndreaMarie July 2, 2012, 2:15 pm

I’m sorry but no “coming out” could have been as damaging to Tom’s rep as when he revealed his involvement with Scientology.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 2:19 pm

I dunno. Scientology certainly hasn’t hurt his career. He’s still a huge box office star… And honestly, in defense of Tom Cruise, had he come out in the 1980s nobody would ever remember who he is right now. His career would have been THAT over…

avatar Lindsay July 2, 2012, 2:46 pm

I think the whole sham marriage thing is messed up, as well as whatever sense of shame would drive someone to go to such great lengths to hide their sexuality. However, in terms of celebrities coming out, in general, I don’t think it’s really our business. Sure, it would be nice to see high-profile folks be proud enough of who they are to show everyone that it’s OK. But I feel like the whole concept of the closet relies on the idea that the “default” is being straight and if you’re not telling everyone you’re gay, then you must be pretending to be straight. I don’t think Anderson Cooper has faked having girlfriends, as far as I can tell, or lied and said he was straight. And celebrities, I feel, are on a whole separate level, too, because it’s not really our business who they are attracted to. Even straight celebrities or gay ones who have come out often don’t really want everyone in their business about who they’re dating.

Sorry for the rant. It doesn’t really apply to Tom Cruise since he’s taken it to such an extreme, but the Anderson Cooper stuff sort of brought it to mind.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 2:51 pm

Cooper only penned several books all about himself where he, somehow, just never said anything about the subject. To leave that out of your own autobiography isn’t exactly being the picture perfect definition of honest…

avatar Lindsay July 2, 2012, 3:00 pm

I think he has every right not to tell us every detail about his life. I’m sure there are a lot of things we don’t know about various celebrities, but that doesn’t make them dishonest for not telling us.

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 2:58 pm

I actually didn’t even know Anderson Cooper wasn’t out, so to speak. I just thought we has gay, and didn’t know it was never talked about.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:00 pm

He was always vague and cagey about it…

JK JK July 2, 2012, 3:02 pm

This thing with Anderson Cooper reminded me of Jim Parsons, as well. It was known he´s gay, but a while back it was all over the place, because hepd actually acknowledged it in an interview. That I don´t get. Nobody has to “announce” they´re straight, whay should they announce they´re gay (except for when they´ve made a big show of the fact that they aren´t).

avatar bethany July 2, 2012, 3:53 pm

Thank you- I was thinking that the whole time I was commenting on all this…

Really, it’s none of my business, and I dont’ understand why people need to come out and say “who” they are… If you’re living your life the way you want to, it shoudn’t really matter to us.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 3:58 pm

Hoping for some input from actual gay people on here, but it seems to me that the people who are most bothered by this are gay people.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 4:11 pm

Un, NEWSFLASH! We can’t just “live our lives the way we want to…” We can’t get married in most every state. We can’t even jointly adopt children in many states… Hell, in a good number of states we can still be fired. This ongoing myth that gay people are being uppity and in your face by being open and out is a myth constantly propagated by the far right. For years gays dutifully stayed in the fucking closet and it got us fucking nowhere.

Moreover, as long as being gay remains “shameful” to some in society, the suicide rate among gay teenagers WILL go unchecked.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 4:18 pm

Whoa, whoa, I never said any of those things. I’m well aware of what you are saying.

What I was saying, and I guess you sorta confirmed without confirming, was if/why gays are bothered about in-the-closet gays. I’m guessing that you agree that gays find it harmful to society that some refuse to come out.

I agree with whoever above said ‘why is it our business’, and then pondered who is really bothered by people not saying what their orientation is and why that might be.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 4:22 pm

No, that was posted in the wrong place, it was my reply to Bethany’s posting…

avatar bethany July 2, 2012, 4:42 pm

Ok, allow me to rephrase– I don’t see why “society”, feels the need to have people who are clearly living a gay lifestyle make some sort of announcement that they are gay. I remember reading something Adam Lambert said after he was on Idol, about how he’d been living his life as an openly gay man for 10 years (I’m making this # up, I don’t remember what it really was), and didn’t understand why people needed him to make some big announcement that he was gay. He was living life as an open gay male- Why should he have to “come out” to the public, when he’d already been “out” in his REAL life.

This is what I meant– I don’t understand why we/society need some sort of announcement about who someone is…

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 4:46 pm

I think it’s because society kinda demands it… But citing Lambert is kinda funny as he only came out publicly AFTER he was guaranteed to be on the cover of the magazine that week… He was VERY cagey the whole time he was on IDOL…

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 4:50 pm

I gotta say he really, really was obviously gay. Didn’t see need for him to announce it.

avatar ele4phant July 2, 2012, 10:15 pm

I find it strange when public figures of any orientation are forced to be open about their personal lives. For instance, why is a famous straight couple obligated to talk about the state of their relationship? I understand that people are curious (I mean, I sure am at times), but really, just because you have a high profile doesn’t mean the whole world gets an all access pass to every facet of your life. So what if we, the public, “demands” it; its not our god given right to demand that information.

I can understand being angry when celebrities deliberately mislead, or use their personal lives to gin up publicity, but otherwise, if they just want a shred of privacy, its a shame they get pressured into living in a class house or being cast as an idol for an entire community.

avatar natasiarose July 2, 2012, 10:27 pm

Saying “I’m gay” isn’t the same as divulging the details of your relationship, or even personal life. It’s part of who you are. All LGBT adults, who are in safe spaces, should come out so that LGBT youth aren’t bullied, or driven to suicide. The more we come out and normalize gay, the sooner it won’t be a big deal. But we need to get to that point first.

avatar ele4phant July 2, 2012, 11:06 pm

I guess. And I wasn’t attempting to take a stance on whether or not it is in everyone’s best interest for LGBT celebrities to come out (although I still say no one should be forced to do anything they don’t want to – even if it greatly benefits the greater community. *Should* is not the same as *must*.)

More generally though, people need to calm the f*ck down with feeling entitled to know everything about their favorite celeb’s personal life. It wouldn’t be your business to know the details of a someone’s life if they were just some person you saw around town, and its anymore your business if instead you someone on a screen.

I fully acknowledge there must be some celebrities who feed stories directly to tabloids to keep themselves famous, but I also think some public figures just want to live their private lives like everyone else gets to.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 11:08 pm

T H I S !!!!

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 4:23 pm

In all fairness, as a single woman, I won’t be able to adopt either. Unless I’m super rich. Which I’m not. And I have considered adopting in a few years and was saddened that I most likely won’t be able to adopt. I mean, there are so many kids out there who need a good home.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 4:29 pm

Even married, straight people have to be pretty wealthy to adopt.
One of the things I find most outrageous in this country is that, after being properly evaluated, its beyond difficult to adopt. The fact that gays and single people have it even harder is disgusting to me. Do people really think children are better off alone than with people that will love them?!

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 5:17 pm

I wholeheartedly agree.

And I think you’re right about it being expensive for anyone to adopt. I think you’re more likely to be able to do it if you’re a heterosexual couple though.

Lili Lili July 2, 2012, 4:29 pm

I know right. A part of me hopes that if same sex couples can adopt, maybe like twenty or so years down the line, i f we’re still single and childless, me and my best (female) friend can try to adopt and raise a child together as a platonic pair. It might be unconventional, but if the kid gets a good home and two loving parents–four if we ever find partners in our 50a, then we would just have amicable joint custody–who is to say its not right?

avatar ktfran July 2, 2012, 5:19 pm

Agreed.

avatar jumper July 2, 2012, 2:47 pm

I rarely comment on DW, and I imagine NOBODY is going to like what I have to say, but based on my own life experiences, I feel like I really have to leave a cautionary remark.

In college I played with and then captained an all-girl team that was about ½ gay or alternate-sexuality, in a sport that has a strong reputation for welcoming/having a high number of lesbians/bisexuals/transgendered/whatevers. Please understand that this was never a problem for me- I could get tackled all day long by gay girls, tackle them right back, and nobody felt weird about it :-)

But at one point, several people in my college became convinced that I was gay- butch haircut, sports bras, hanging out with gay chicks? I don’t know. I am as straight as a ruler, I never even felt the slightest urge to experiment with women, and was hooking up with a few dudes at that point. I was practically hounded for months as these individuals tried to get me to come out of a closet that I’d never been in. Seriously, think Jehovah’s Witness-on-crack combined w/ gay-rally-organizer. It was embarrassing and humiliating. NOT because of some dislike of homosexuals, or thought on my part that being gay was shameful- I have never thought that. But my friends were inundating me with their opinions about how I should live, how I was wrong, what I should do. I felt denigrated because these people insisted that my assertions of heterosexuality were “just me being afraid.” I felt dismissed and rejected as an individual.

Obviously, my experience is pretty unique and weird. But think about it… isn’t one of the big points of the gay equality movement the notion that OTHER PEOPLE’S SEXUALITY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS? Everybody should feel free to live life the way they please (assuming they don’t hurt others/of age/consent and all that jazz); other people should not have the ability to enforce their opinions on you. Right? Yes, if people are in the closet, they should hopefully be in an environment that would respond positively if they decide to come out. BUT IT’S THEIR DECISION. To presume that you know what’s best for someone else’s love life to me just smacks of the same self-righteousness that homophobes have. If they don’t want to come out… ok then. Whatever floats their boats. As long as other people who WANT to are able to do so, then sweet.

And while I don’t follow gossip about Hollywood, is it really fair to presume that you know someone’s sexuality so certainly? Don’t so many modern philosophies decry the concept of heternormativity? Don’t project your straight cultural norms on the rest of the world? So wouldn’t the flipside of that be not making assumptions about people’s HOMOsexuality?… don’t make assumptions about other people’s homosexuality based on crappy gossip magazines?

I really hope nobody takes this the wrong way… it isn’t meant to condemn efforts to create a positive environment for people to disclose their sexuality, should they wish. I just know that, gay or straight, if I got a letter like that, I’d feel very… hounded.

avatar Lindsay July 2, 2012, 2:52 pm

I totally agree. People should not feel like they’ve got to tell everybody their sexual preference in order to not be considered cowardly, or whatever else. Nobody should be forced to tell others personal information about their life and made to feel bad about it if they don’t want to.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 2:59 pm

Gee, maybe you should have just lost that really bad haircut.

I kid, I kid. But the fact that one of the nation’s ruling political parties is racing around doing everything they can to FUCK over gays everywhere HAS suddenly made it everybody’s business in my book. Hell, Republicunts everywhere have seemingly made it their fucking mission statement in the past few years… It’s all they want to run on these days… Well, fuck them. Or better yet — don’t fuck them. Hell, the ones that rail the loudest against homosexuality are always the ones your find out later were taking it in the ass in airport restrooms everywhere…

avatar jumper July 2, 2012, 3:02 pm

I also think it’s weird that some people seem SO CERTAIN that a celebrity is gay. Let me asterisk that by saying that I know jack shit about Hollywood stuff, so obviously if there’s very obvious or revealing info out there, that’s one thing. But it seems like so far the criteria for finding homosexuality in a celebrity is them being attractive, dapper, and charming. Well, as a straight female I damn well hope not, I want some of them for myself! And many confirmed gay celebrities don’t seem to send off any particular “signals” to me at least… somebody mentioned Matt Bomer from White Collar- case in point. That man is so damn hot… I am adamantly opposed to his homosexuality simply because I want him for myself. Sorry, BGM, you have to leave some of the cute ones for us!

And my haircut was AWESOME :-) the punk guys liked it

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:07 pm

Um, Matt Bomer is OPENLY gay though. He’s thanked his husband and adopted children at an awards ceremony. Hell, he’s even talked about his relationship in the PR blitz surrounding Magic Mike. And how he doesn’t want to be pigeon-holed by his homosexuality…

http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/film/2012/06/28/dont-call-matt-bomer-gay-actor

Lili Lili July 2, 2012, 3:11 pm

BTW BGM what are your thoughts on Chris Evans? He’s my main hollywood crush right now, but occasionally I get the vibes from him. IDK. I HAVE always liked gay men to straight ones. I think I’m a (flamboyant) gay man trapped in a woman’s body.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:19 pm

Chris Evans? Okay,I honestly don’t see how ANY straight man could actually have THAT HOT a body… That said Evans is so Loud and Proud in his support of gay rights and causes… I honestly don’t see what he would gain by staying in the closet if he were gay. To the contrary, I think the media blitz would only help his career. So yeah, he’s straight. Which is tragic because the minute he gets married he’ll bloat up and let himself go… ;) They always do.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:21 pm

Also, Chris has a brother Scott who IS openly gay… And that’s probably why Chris is probably simply so cool with the issue.

Lili Lili July 2, 2012, 3:23 pm

So what I hear you saying is….I HAVE A SHOT. YES. Now off to dedicate myself to the gym 4 hours a day to have a body WORTHY of him. I mean, all I really want is a hot ONS and then I’d happily spend the rest of my life bragging about that it. God, I’d be insufferable on DW. Every comment would start with Hiya, this is Lili, the chick who banged Chris Evans.

avatar jumper July 2, 2012, 3:26 pm

His ass in the Captain uniform in the Avengers is definitely epic

avatar jumper July 2, 2012, 3:20 pm

No, that’s what I meant, BGM. He’s gay, everybody knows it (can you imagine how cute his biological kids would be? swoon. sorry, I’m obsessed). My point is I think we should be wary of the concept of a “gay tell.” Really, isn’t that just inverted profiling? Gay men can be icons of alpha manliness a la Neal Caffrey/male strippers, and straight men can be dapper fashionistas. It doesn’t mean anything.

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 3:26 pm

Actually, the reason for MOST of the rumors is that the actors themselves are often profoundly indiscreet. I was an extra on a film (OUTBREAK) once for several weeks and a certain male star kept inviting HOT MALE production assistants to his trailer… one by one… EVERYBODY knew what was going on and this star, who is so obviously gay in oh-so many ways is STILL not out as far as I know.

** And yes, we’re definitely talking Kevin Spacey here.

avatar jumper July 2, 2012, 3:28 pm

Kevin Spacey huh… meh, not for me. Team Gay Male can keep him.

avatar tbrucemom July 2, 2012, 3:53 pm

I thought he did a little too good of a job in “Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil”, lol

landygirl landygirl July 2, 2012, 4:22 pm

Here I thought you were going to out Dustin Hoffman.

Caris Caris July 2, 2012, 5:31 pm

lolz

avatar tbrucemom July 2, 2012, 3:51 pm

I do believe Cruise and Travolta are gay and are in the closet because of Scientology but I think Clooney is just a confirmed bachelor. The whole thing with Katie is just sick. He marries a woman 17 years his junior who used to fantasize about marrying him as a child, a search is made for a wife, a contract is signed, etc., it’s just weird. I respect other people’s religions but Scientology is not a religion, it’s a cult. I’m glad she got out before her daughter was brainwashed like they did to her.

avatar lets_be_honest July 2, 2012, 4:32 pm

threadjack—anyone remember when I said the other site was stealing ideas from here? They wrote about the fart blocker today!

JK JK July 2, 2012, 5:39 pm

Seriously? Wow.
I wonder who the lurker/stearler is.
And I think I brought that up, I HOPE they gave me some credit haha

avatar Ally July 2, 2012, 8:12 pm

Couldn’t help but think of this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDOsuGNlGv4

bittergaymark bittergaymark July 2, 2012, 8:31 pm

That’s probably NOT all that far off, actually…

avatar natasiarose July 2, 2012, 9:59 pm

I think I’m the only person who doesn’t think Tom Cruise is gay. I think he’s asexual.

avatar Kate July 5, 2012, 2:01 pm

Me too. I think he’s not faking being interested in women; he’s faking being interested at all.

avatar Maria March 31, 2013, 3:45 pm

I disagree, there is absolutely no reason for Tom Cruise to tell the public anything about his private life. Hetro’s don’t announce their sexual preferences! Why does everyone want gays to “Come Out” ? I think it is stupid that we are so consumed with people’s sex life. It definitely hurts their acting careers. Ask some that did come out and then lost their career. Rock Hudson was the immaculate exception. Even tho all of Hollywood knew he was gay they respected his privacy. People do not CHOOSE to be gay. It is a burden for them. I have gay friends who have shared that with me. It is a tough life and many young people commit suicide over the confusion and rejection they face. However, it is unfortunate for those spouses who marry gays because they want to cover up their sexuality. This topic is completely worn out! Give it a rest, folks. No one chooses to be short, tall, or disabled and yet they are made fun of all the time. It is sad. I was an orphan and attended different schools because I lived in 30 different home before I was 18. I was made fun of at school, all the time, because (especially) I had no Mother. They would chant and say “They musta found you under a rock” Very hurtful and caused scars that I still carry today. I got into a lot of fights because of that and became isolated and distrustful. Fortunately, years later I spent many years in therapy to learn how to manage my rage and lack of trust. But you never completely forget it. Same with gays. Someday we will all understand this on the other side. You should not judge when you do not know the circumstances behind anyone’s actions.

3-31-13
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