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    Janelle

    Oh babe how do they not know what a mouse is. I thought I might keel over right there.

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    Ron

    Teacher Nerd —
    I’m not giving you attitude. As you describe the facts, you are still a probationary teacher. I’ve talked to tons of school administrators and know well their attitude to what they regard as uppitiness in a probationary teacher, and believe me, a teacher with less than a year in the district getting bent out of shape about being required to participate in a training program does not go over well. You would be very well advised to cool your jets. It doesn’t matter how many sections of this course you’ve taught in community college. In your school district, you are the new probationary employee. They want you and the other teachers to approach the teaching of the course in the same way, and that goes beyond content.

    I can tell you that in the school district in my city, even teachers with 20 years experience are expected to attend all of the pertinent training sessions the district offers. Especially with the pressure of standardized testing, school districts really are not big on nonconformity.

    But, don’t believe me. Go ahead and rebel against the system and see where that gets you.

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    LadyinPurpleNotRed
    LadyinPurpleNotRed
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    Yeah….I gotta agree with Ron–your attitude here sucks monkey balls. We all have to do things for our job that we might want to do. Deal. It’s not a big thing. Go with an open mind for something you might learn. I know it feels like it, but you don’t know everything there is to know.

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    TeacherNerd

    Thanks for the feedback, guys. I shal indeed rebel! Asking for clarification helps. And please don’t confuse frustration with bad attitude.

    Signed,
    TN (No, I am not a probationary teacher.)

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    TheHizzy

    Go to the training. You might learn something. Styles are always changing and ways to get to the youth is different than that of adults.

    This is a non issue. Suck it up, and go. Great way to keep networking with fellow teachers and learn from them, and teach them some things.

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    Miss Anne Thrope

    If that’s the worst partp of your job, stuck it up buttercup 😉 Most professions require redundant training. As a lawyer, I have to pay every year to be educated on substance abuse (because lawyers like booze and blow) and ethics (Dewy, Cheetham & Howe set the precedence for that one.)

    So go. Network. You’re a teacher, I’m sure you can find a way to learn something more than just how to teach your class.

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    Milla

    I’m in a similar boat (on the full-time job market, adjuncting at two places in the meantime, FYW is my bread and butter). The thing I find frustrating about training like you’re describing is that it’s just a desperate attempt to try to standardize the curriculum, and so talks down to adjuncts and our classroom experience. I also find them annoying because it interrupts precious spare research/grading/prep time. I’ve been there. But I just grit my teeth and attend the ones that I’m required to, take the extra money, and hopefully there’s a discussion that’s useful to me. When I’m there, I find there’s something nice about being in the same physical space as my colleagues, even if I grouse about doing it beforehand (and okay, after).

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    LisforLeslie

    TN – I get the frustration of having to take a class that you have taught but I think you’re missing the bigger picture here:

    1. This is being requested as part of your employment. Making a case that you know this material and therefore don’t need to attend makes you sound like a special snowflake. Not the impression that you want to give. If you’ve presented your case that you teach the class, the curriculum is the same and you want to confirm that they still would like you to attend, then stop trying to get out of it. Continuing to insist it’s a waste of your time and the schools money makes it sound like your not a team player.

    2. You can find the teachers with whom you’ll be working and use this as a bonding experience, that will help when you’re actually teaching. Use this as an opportunity let your fellow teachers know they can use you as a resource.

    3. You might learn something new. You taught the course. The curriculum is the same, the people in the classroom are not the same. They are not your students. They have different perspectives and together you can share your experiences. I can’t imagine this will be a dry lecture with no discussion.

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    RedRoverRedRover

    The district might have a goal of being able to say “all of our teachers have attended xyz training”. Or they may just want to ensure everyone’s got the same baseline. I like Kate’s suggestion of confirming with them that they think it’s a good use of your time. If they say it is, then just go with good grace. They obviously have a reason that you may not be privy to.

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    dinoceros
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    I don’t think this is that uncommon, in any field. I have new colleagues this year, so I’ve had to go through a couple of trainings/meetings again because I’m part of the team and they need them. It’s not a big deal.

    Even if you’re a good teacher, experience doesn’t make everyone a good one. I’ve had co-workers (in education, but not teaching) who had been there longer than me who were clueless and in definite need of training, so a blanket policy that anyone with experience doesn’t need to go to trainings/refreshers would have been really unfortunate.

    I’d say just consider it an easy day and go. I’d agree that trying to prove you don’t need this is going to sound kind of annoying and like you’re trying to say you’re better than everyone else. Not worth it.

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    bittergaymark
    Bittergaymark

    Millenial Problems due to Millenial Attitude. Check it, TN. Or you’ll regret it. Trust me.

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    Portia
    Portia

    Does it suck to be taking the same training you’ve taught? Yes. But you’re being paid to go. Think of it like a refresher, or that you’re there to make sure the teacher covers everything (not sure if they’d be opposed to you adding in your experience during the class).

    And who knows, you might learn something new from a teacher with a different perspective. Not that it’s the same, but I’ve been doing pottery on the wheel for a long time (over 15 years), and every time I join a new studio, one of the requirements is that you take a beginner class before you can sign up for only open studio to work on your own. The first time it annoyed me because I knew what I was doing, and for the most part those beginner classes contain information I already knew. But I tend to pick up a new trick to two when I do that.

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