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Topic of the Day: Meghan Markle And Prince Harry Announce Pregnancy At Princess Eugenie’s Wedding

Five months after tying the knot, Meghan Markle And Prince Harry announced publicly today that they are expecting a baby in the Spring.

Word on the street is that they made the announcement to the royal family on Friday at, gasp, Harry’s cousin’s, Princess Eugenie’s, wedding. If that’s true, that’s kinda tacky, and I guess I don’t blame Fergie, Eugenie’s mother, for arguably throwing some shade their way today. (Literally one minute after they made their formal announcement on Twitter, Fergie began making wedding-related posts with nary a mention of the pregnancy news all day. Snap.)

This reminds me a little bit of a question we got the other day from someone who just learned she was pregnant and whose husband wanted to announce it right away to his family days after his grandmother suffered a serious stroke. It begs the question: Would you announce your pregnancy when your family was focused on another family member (because of a wedding, a funeral, a milestone birthday, another baby’s birth, a health crisis or some other emergency)? HAVE you shared pregnancy news when your family was focused on someone or something else? Have you ever regretted the way or timing of announcing your pregnancy?

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    JD October 15, 2018, 1:35 pm

    I don’t want to sound all Bridezilla here but I’d be PISSED!!!! Announce that ANY OTHER TIME.

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    Janelle October 15, 2018, 1:38 pm

    Yes,tacky-I was very surprised to hear that they would do that!

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    SpaceySteph October 15, 2018, 1:42 pm

    My best friend’s wedding was a couple days after her grandmother’s birthday. They had a cake for her grandmother at the rehearsal dinner and we all sang Happy Birthday. It was real cute. Then her cousin announces at the rehearsal dinner as the cake is being cut that she’s pregnant with the first great grandchild on that side of the family.
    Way to try to steal attention from multiple people at once!

    I do think this situation is different from the letter though. And much tackier. You can hold on to your news for another damn week to let the dust settle after your cousin’s wedding. But grandma is ill and going to be recovering for a long time (or maybe dead) and you can’t hold off forever waiting for her t o recover.

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    Kas October 15, 2018, 1:43 pm

    Very happy for them! But I wish they had waited 24hrs. Today is a worldwide remembrance day for those babies lost through miscarriage, stillbirth or cot death (Google ‘wave of light’). Whilst I appreciate the immense pressure they are probably under from the media to announce – many women and men would have probably appreciated the opportunity to focus on their loss without rolling news of someone else’s ‘blessing’ on TV and social media. Again to stress – happy for them! Just think announcing tomorrow (or even the day before) might have shown a little more sensitivity.

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      Ange October 15, 2018, 5:38 pm

      Even the head of one of the organisations associated with that day said it wasn’t a big deal. I’m no fan of the royals but considering most people have never even heard of that day until now I don’t blame them for simply not knowing about it.

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    Poppy October 15, 2018, 2:04 pm

    I didnt know she was preggo until you just shared this. I think their situation is a damn if we do damn if we dont so they might have thought to share it after the wedding as to not have all the attention on them had they shared it prior, which would have been a smart move. It would have been tacky to share at the wedding but after the wedding I dont see any probelms with it. Royal or not, once your wedding day is over its over. Princess Eugenie had an entire weekend spotlighted over her wedding. Meghans probably showing and felt it was time to announce. People dont get to dictate other peoples lives. They shouldnt have to plan a royal wedding around having a baby and vice versa. They waited til after the wedding festivites were over. Thats fair enough.

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      keyblade October 15, 2018, 2:47 pm

      I agree. Personally, I think if people have to travel and don’t necessarily see their whole family at the same time very often, I don’t see why anyone should care all that much. It would be different if they did it during a wedding toast or while the spotlight of the room was meant to be on the bride, but if their in a room with their closest (and that probably doesn’t happen much without a bunch of gossip and chatter) I don’t think there is anything wrong with discretely mentioning it to close family who is there.

      I didn’t announce at anyone’s wedding but I did have people who I hadn’t seen or heard from much discover I was five months along at a mutual family member’s wedding. I regretted not saying something earlier, this was before Instagram and I didn’t have Facebook. It’s always been a bit weird to call people to announce a “pregnancy”. Unless it is someone you’ve spoken with about the topic, like a close friend, it always felt a bit forced for me.

      I don’t judge other people that harshly about things like this without knowing the background because some people can be perfectly mannered and still behave like assholes and others can be rude but forgiving and kind. It just depends on the people, I think.

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        keyblade October 15, 2018, 2:49 pm

        edit: “but if they’re* in a room with their closest…”

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        Poppy October 15, 2018, 3:08 pm

        Yea, same here. I dont have facebook anymore and weddings are usually a place where family comes together once a year if that unless they get together around the holiday or have a reunion. I would fell,awakward calling up a great aunt or relative I don’t speak with telling them im pregnant. My husbands 1st cousin felt comfortable texting us before she posted on social media. When I become pregnant my plan is to wait about the 12th. I cant help when I get pregnant and I sure cant help what evens happen between when i do and after.

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      Poppy October 15, 2018, 3:09 pm

      Stupid smartphone…meant awkward and 12th week.

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      Dear Wendy October 15, 2018, 4:20 pm

      They didn’t wait until after the wedding festivities though – that’s the point. Apparently, they shared the news with the royal family AT the wedding.

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    Stephanie October 15, 2018, 2:47 pm

    I don’t follow the Royal Family at all, but a coworker is is obsessed told me today that this same cousin also had to move her wedding from the original date because of Prince Harry and Meghan’s wedding. Double whammy if that’s true.

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    Copa October 15, 2018, 2:48 pm

    I didn’t read the articles, but kinda wonder they shared the news because someone asked her why she wasn’t drinking? (This happened at a cousin’s wedding with another cousin! She wasn’t planning to say anything, but people noticed she wasn’t drinking. A family member eventually asked her bluntly and she said yes.)

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    Rebecca October 15, 2018, 3:10 pm

    Fergie’s a drama queen.

    All indications are that they “shared” the news discretely and with immediate family while at the wedding because she’d started to show already.

    This is the epitome of non-issues.

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      LisforLeslie October 16, 2018, 6:33 am

      Precisely, MM is tiny – and followed by paparazzi constantly. The internet fashion watchers were like “Hmmmm baggy… PREGGERS????” so they were merely making sure that people knew “yup -this is happening”

      Also – despite they are family, it’s not like Harry is going to text his grandma “Guess what Grandmama!” or inform the family via FaceBook. They’ve got protocols, this might be the only time they see one another until Christmas.

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        Dear Wendy October 16, 2018, 9:47 am

        They all live in the same palace!! Surely it’s not that difficult to arrange a meetup that’s not at a cousin’s wedding.

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    Ruby Tuesday October 15, 2018, 4:00 pm

    The Royal Family DESPISES Fergie. I recently read The Royals by Kitty Kelly, and my god, that family is fucking awful.

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      Ruby Tuesday October 15, 2018, 4:00 pm

      I bet the Queen orchestrated the whole thing.

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      meadowphoenix October 15, 2018, 4:55 pm

      The entire family is full of shady racist bored busybodies, so they were probably trying to head off tabloid rumors about her keeping her coat on (lol too late) or not following some obscure royal protocol.

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    Ange October 15, 2018, 5:35 pm

    I’m not sure when they were supposed to do it otherwise though. After the wedding they pretty much went directly to their tour of Australia and Fiji etc and it’s not like they see the queen every day. It’s not like the queen is someone you tell via twitter and TMZ. Bump watch was already pretty intense I don’t think there was a better time and place. They didn’t do it publicly they just told it in a small group so meh.

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      JD October 16, 2018, 9:49 am

      I assure you the queen already knew.

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        Ange October 16, 2018, 11:14 pm

        I’d be interested to know how you know that

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    Heatherly October 15, 2018, 5:40 pm

    Telling your family during a wedding that you’re pregnant is fine in my opinion. Especially, if they ‘re looking at you quizically as why you’re still wearing a big coat indoors. It’s not like she announced from the pulpit. And bollocks to Andrew ‘s children. They should have had a private small ceremony that us tax payers didn’t have to pay for. They don’t have royal duties, so they provide no service. They told the world today because they’re on a Royal Tour of Australia & nearby islands ( camera’s everywhere) & the two folders full of papers Meghan tried to hide behind as she got off the plane raised more questions. Sigh, I hate that I know/gleaned this. I don’t even like the Royal Family or think it’s worth our money. But good luck to Megan as that family is tough to get on with. I suspect it’s very much a lonely gilded cage that she is in.

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    ele4phant October 15, 2018, 5:52 pm

    I mean, did they tell the family during the wedding? Is that confirmed?

    Also – the media was speculating about whether she was pregnant the second she stepped out of that car, so maybe its not a “We’re hear to steal the limelight – we’re telling you because everyone is speculating so now you know and here’s how we’re dealing with it today.”

    Also – who cares. I honestly don’t think its tacky. I mean, maybe if they grabbed a mike during a speech and were like “We’re preggers!”, how is it really stealing the spotlight. I was so busy with my wedding reception of only 40 people, if someone was telling people one on one they were expecting I wouldn’t have known. I’m sure it didn’t make a difference to Eugenie one way or the other. She got plenty of attention – both in physical attendance and media coverage – she’s fine.

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    Miss MJ October 15, 2018, 6:06 pm

    I kind of figured that it just sort of came out at the wedding because Meghan wouldn’t have been drinking (even to toast), plus the media started speculating because of her outfit (that people there all saw) and it was kind of obvious to people in attendence? So they acknowledged it to family and then it got out that way. I didn’t see it as a deliberate announcement or attention grab.

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    MissD October 15, 2018, 6:08 pm

    Also agree that this is isn’t a big deal. As others have said, I highly doubt that they stood up and made a grand announcement to the entire reception.

    My best guess is that they kept their mouths shut before so as not to steal Eugenie’s spotlight. But after the ceremony and after the reception, they told their closest family members since everyone was their together and they were leaving for their tour of Australia, etc, the next day.

    And as others have mentioned, Meghan is beginning to show and the speculation is already crazy, so they felt it was best to tell family before their tour, not after.

    I don’t think it’s tacky at all in this case.

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    Nunya October 15, 2018, 7:23 pm

    How perfectly TACKY it was for Markle the Narcissist to ruin Eugenie’s day.
    Is Harry also tacky-or just stupid?
    Eugenie was a beautiful bride at a lovely wedding. A REAL PRINCESS.
    Markle is a second tier wife of a wannabe king.
    I hope Kate has 6 more kids.

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      dinoceros October 15, 2018, 8:46 pm

      Somebody’s a little too invested.

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      Ange October 15, 2018, 8:56 pm

      Samantha?

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        Heatherly October 16, 2018, 6:34 pm

        Haha, Ange!

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        MissD October 17, 2018, 4:16 am

        OMG I just got this. Hahahahaha.

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        Bcamber October 17, 2018, 5:44 am

        Ahahaha!

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    dinoceros October 15, 2018, 8:45 pm

    I don’t know that I’d compare this situation to regular people making an announcement at an event. I doubt it was the kind of thing that they just recklessly announced just for the heck of it. Everything the royals do is done in a specific way for a specific reason. This probably isn’t the same as Kelsey and Connor showing up to her cousin’s wedding and stealing the mic to tell people she’s pregnant.

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    Bittergaymark October 15, 2018, 9:15 pm

    Tacky. But then the Royal family is nothing but fucking tacky and tasteless.

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    ron October 15, 2018, 9:30 pm

    I think Americans care more about the English royal family than the English do. The other bits of Britain — conquered by England. With Brexit, who knows how much of Britain will hold together. I’m betting Scotland is gone within a decade. Royal families are an anachronism,, as silly as the Kardashians.

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    Carol October 16, 2018, 6:03 am

    I don’t understand the drama. Shouldn’t families be happy for each other. I would not be upset in any way for such an announcement. I love my family and would be very happy.

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      MissD October 16, 2018, 6:35 am

      Same here. I’m pretty sure that if one of my close friends or family members told me at my wedding that they were pregnant, I would not be upset at all. I’d be thrilled.

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        JD October 16, 2018, 9:50 am

        Don’t come to my wedding then! haha

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    allathian October 16, 2018, 7:51 am

    Aww. I agree the timing could have been better, but I don’t think they were stealing the limelight of the bride and groom.

    In these politically restless times, the royals of monarchies do bring comfort and a sense of stability to a lot of people.

    I’m not sure about the UK, but at least in Sweden the royals bring in more money than they cost the state. As they accompany business delegations abroad, those delegations often get more media attention in the host country than they otherwise would. Not to mention all the papers that are bought because a royal’s made the front page…

    It’s not a life I’d ever want for myself. Imagine being in the public eye all the time, criticized for anything from looks to clothes. Not to mention surrounded by security and servants. I’m not even sure they’re alone in their bedroom, at the very least they have a guard somewhere in the house, possibly just outside the door. Royals need the permission of the sovereign to get married and they don’t have rights that most of us take for granted, such as the freedom of religion (if a monarchy has a national church, the sovereign is usually the head of that church) and because they’re supposed to be above mere politics, royals either don’t have the vote or don’t use their right to vote.

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    Kate October 16, 2018, 9:56 am

    *I really don’t care,* but I would say this is problematic because MM is the gorgeous beloved actress who married the Prince and everyone tuned in around the world for her wedding, and Eugenie is kinda meh. Like, it’s not so nice to put the spotlight on you under those circumstances. My goodness, if she’s showing, then she’s more than 3 months along, and could have told people before the wedding day. Or waited until after even. She didn’t have to be like, yeah, you got me, I’m pregnant, even if she wasn’t drinking or her waistline was thicker.

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      keyblade October 16, 2018, 10:52 am

      I didn’t really pay much attention to either wedding, but that makes sense. I can understand why Eugenie’s mother might have been a bit put off, especially because you know MM had to think about it all. From a pageant point of view, she could have asked them to meet up early and told them before hand.

      I have no clue of who busy the Royals are and how formal it is to meet up with them. I do know that twelve weeks doesn’t always mean getting to carry your baby to term. It takes a special person to be able to live their life under constant scrutiny. People don’t usually have children to overshadow other people but I’m not surprised Eugenie’s mother would redirect attention back to her own daughter because I imagine it’s hard to ever get out of a shadow as large as MM.

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      ele4phant October 16, 2018, 11:02 am

      I mean, the Royals don’t lead normal lives.

      They have weird ass protocols they have to adhere to. They live their lives under the media microscope.

      Sounds like the Queen has to be told first. I don’t know what her scheduling is like, but I assume you can’t just drop-in. They were about to go on a two week trip where they were going to be watched and photographed endlessly. If they had released a statement *before* Eugenie’s wedding surely they would’ve been accused of trying to distract from the wedding.

      It doesn’t sound like they commandeering mikes and saying to the while room “Hey, we’re pregnant!”.

      So…what does it matter if they told a few family members during the event, and they didn’t publicly announce until the wedding.

      Also – how much wedding attention does one need? More people attended Eugenie’s wedding in-person than attended Harry and Meghan’s, and her wedding was still broadcast and her wedding dress breathlessly covered.

      Should Meghan just have not come? Even that would’ve caused a media speculation frenzy. Should she just not gotten pregnant until no cousins had upcoming weddings?

      These people lead odd lives, all of them.

      And if they were normal people, if it was my wedding that a cousin came newly pregnant too and discretely told some family members about during the reception, and then made a bigger announcement the day after, it wouldn’t bother me.

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        Kate October 16, 2018, 11:09 am

        It appeared to bother Eugenie and her mom though, right? I just think if there was any way they could have let people know, without doing it at Eugenie’s actual wedding, that would have been the nicer thing to do, so as not to take any attention off Eugenie when you KNOW you’re the much bigger deal comparatively.

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        ele4phant October 16, 2018, 12:23 pm

        I mean, we don’t know how Eugenie felt because we don’t know her. Fergie seems to care, but I’ve read Eugenie didn’t and was just happy to be married and happy for her cousins.

        Besides, sounds like maybe they didn’t actually tell anyone at the wedding anyways: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a23799042/prince-harry-meghan-markle-pregnancy-announcement-princess-eugenie-wedding/

        I don’t really know what this couple was supposed to do. As you noted, she’s a big deal right now. Any way you slice it, she’d draw attention.

        She couldn’t attend without paparazzi and the media speculating over her stomach. She couldn’t not go because then there’d be an uproar over that. She couldn’t not get pregnant, because no one has to put their lives on hold just to make sure a bride has 100% undivided attention on their wedding day.

        What’s she supposed to do?

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        Kate October 16, 2018, 12:30 pm

        Not announce it at Eugenie’s wedding. Maybe she didn’t, which, great.

        Not sure why you’re suggesting she shouldn’t have gone? People can speculate all they want. Her confirming it, if that’s what she did, at Eugenie’s wedding, would be the issue as far as I’m concerned, but again, I’m not invested in this or interested in finding out the facts.

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    keyblade October 16, 2018, 12:51 pm

    I think of all the ways someone could potentially be tacky, quietly confirming an obvious bump is really low in terms of pearl-clutching faux pas.

    It wasn’t great timing, but there was no way Megan was going to be able to be quietly and privately pregnant after their giant wedding. I feel a bit like camera and focus should really be on Prince Harry, more. While a lot of husbands defer to the pregnant partner’s wishes in how and when to tell people, that really is his family, country, and circus to take some of the lead with. I doubt they are spending their time in Australia worried about his aunt’s disapproving wedding posts. She probably drew more attention to the whole thing than anything they did or didn’t do at the wedding.

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      Kate October 16, 2018, 12:56 pm

      No one should be asking her if she’s pregnant because she looks like she might be, that’s so rude. If they ask her why she’s not drinking, she can easily say she doesn’t feel like it. She could just be trying to conceive, or on an antibiotic or something.

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        keyblade October 16, 2018, 1:23 pm

        If they knew the entire money-chasing world was about to hear about it, I don’t blame them for acknowledging it when some of the family probably already knows and is offering a quick congratulations. It probably never occurred to them aunt Sarah would be such a big baby about it.

        No, people should not ask if she was pregnant but I’d guess a million strangers already had and a some point you just have to decide not to GIF if someone, somewhere on the planet thinks you should have reacted and known how much a (very) small breach of decorum would end up clouding their personal joy. Worrying about decorum to this extent gets in the way of living your own life, I say let it go. You made your point, your royal auntie, you didn’t approve. If I was Megan, I’d make a point to avoid social engagements with you in the future. Too much hassle.

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        Kate October 16, 2018, 1:31 pm

        I disagree. I think people should honestly think more about what’s appropriate, what’s polite, what’s attention-seeking, and what’s over-sharing. Not even talking about Megan right now, just in general.

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        ele4phant October 16, 2018, 1:53 pm

        I think generally, I disagree that sharing you’re pregnant, with a small group of people, is attention seeking.

        I realize that’s subjective, but if we’re talking in the abstract here I don’t feel that you have to pretend like you don’t have things going on in your own life for a day. I think it is acceptable, appropriate, to share news like a pregnancy one-on-one with a small selection of friend and family at someone else wedding. Or shortly thereafter. Don’t make an announcement to everyone, but you can tell the Aunt you only see twice a year, particularly if she’s getting up in your business about it. Just tell her off to the side, and as long as its not the main topic of information that everyone at the wedding is talking about, the bride and groom likely won’t even know or have goodwill and affection pulled away from them.

        If you aren’t creating a scene, I don’t think that’s taking away anything from the couple. It is unreasonable to assume every wedding guest is *only* thinking and having conversations about the wedding couple the whole night.

        Weddings bring family and friends together, they sometimes are used to catch up.

        Specific to Meghan, there’s literally nothing she could have done to not draw attention from the media short of just not being pregnant. So specific to her, she’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t, in terms of people feeling she was taking attention away from the wedding couple.

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        Kate October 16, 2018, 1:59 pm

        “Shortly thereafter,” sure. Call your aunt a few days later and say, Mildred, I wanted to tell you that I am expecting our first child! I didn’t tell you at the wedding [when you asked if I’m “putting on weight,” because that’s incredibly fucking rude, but] mainly because I just didn’t want to take any attention off of Tiffany, the bride, on her day. I hope you understand. Yes, we’re so excited! In April! No, don’t know the sex yet.

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        ele4phant October 16, 2018, 2:17 pm

        Agree to disagree.

        I don’t think there’s any harm in you and Aunt Mildred having a sidebar conversation if bride and groom don’t even hear about it.

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        LisforLeslie October 17, 2018, 6:49 am

        MM is tiny -like super tiny. So when she takes off her boxy coat and is wearing a dress that shows she has a never before seen lady-belly (the poof that women have around the midsection) someone is going to get it. Someone could have asked “are you expecting?” because people do that, especially people who’ve had a few or four drinks. They could have replied, “Yes”. and that that could have been the “announcement to the family.”

        They went public the day after the wedding. Had they really wanted to usurp Eugenie, they’d have announced it before and all of the photos would have been of Megan with the new royal fetus (or as they say in England ‘foetus’).

        Eugenie and Fergie shouldn’t complain at all. I read the wedding cost the taxpayers almost $4M. They didn’t pay diddly for it.

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      Skyblossom October 16, 2018, 2:25 pm

      @Kate I don’t think they had the luxury of waiting a few days to tell anyone because they were leaving on a royal tour the next morning. Time was one thing they didn’t have. Megan came off the plane in Australia hiding her belly behind a folder. She couldn’t do that for the entire tour and they had to change her itinerary and she can’t drink alcohol during toasts. Everyone seems to assume she had lots of time but she didn’t.

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        MissD October 16, 2018, 2:37 pm

        Yeah, I agree Skyblossom. I really don’t think they did anything wrong at all.

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        Bittergaymark October 16, 2018, 3:27 pm

        Oh please. They could have just as easily announced it getting off the plane then next day morning while arriving on their grand royal tour.
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        Gleefully making somebody else’s wedding all about your impending brat’s far off arrival is beyond narcissistic. It also reveals that the new royal is about as classy of that family of white trash rednecks she keeps distancing herself from so desperately.

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        saneinca October 16, 2018, 3:57 pm

        It is tacky. Megan doesn’t get a pass because she is a liberal (assuming). However Harry has been inappropriate too on many occasions and was in the royal doghouse. They could have made the announcement earlier.

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      Cleopatra Jones October 16, 2018, 3:36 pm

      But was it really a secret that she was pregnant?
      I felt like a lot of people knew about it before the wedding, and that was why they were getting married so quickly. I mean, I knew she was preggo and I don’t even follow any of that royal family stuff.

      Honestly, I think she made a huge mistake marrying him because he is a womanizer (as pretty much all of the men in his family are) AND she doesn’t really know him well. She got caught up in the pregnancy and his wealth. I predict that in a few years she’s going to get real tired of finding out he likes to have a LOT of women.

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        SpaceySteph October 17, 2018, 9:50 am

        They announced their engagement in November 2017 so unless she has the gestational period of an elephant, I don’t think it was a shotgun wedding.
        Maybe she was pregnant and lost the baby and is trying again, but the simpler explanation is that she’s in her late-thirties, got married, and her former career as an actress is now a career as a professional wife so why not have a baby.

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        MissD October 17, 2018, 11:13 am

        LOL @ gestational period of an elephant haha

        Yeah, I was thinking this too. It couldn’t have been a shotgun wedding. I mean, they were dating privately for more than a year before the relationship was ever confirmed to the public. They got engaged in November, the wedding was 6 months later in May, it has now been 5 months since the wedding and she’s barely even showing (in my opinion) so she can’t be more than 3-4 months along, tops.

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        SpaceySteph October 17, 2018, 12:08 pm

        Also I don’t think a 6 month engagement is that short. It takes time to plan a wedding but also they have a staff and a ton of money and a lot of decisions made in advance. If you don’t have to worry about your venue being already reserved or your officiant being busy or whether your guests can get off work, you can do it a lot quicker.

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      Ele4phant October 16, 2018, 6:16 pm

      Oh please – second hand reports of them telling a few select members of the royal family on or around the day of the wedding is not gleefully making somebody else’s wedding about them.

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    Skyblossom October 16, 2018, 1:40 pm

    I don’t think they did anything wrong. They didn’t let it come out before the wedding so the attention was focused on Eugenie and Jack. At the wedding they told a few people who needed to know and they did that discreetly. The wedding guests didn’t pour out of the church talking about Harry and Megan having a baby. It wasn’t announced to the press until Monday when Harry and Megan were already in Australia. They really couldn’t wait any longer. Megan will be unable to take part in toasts that are pretty standard on a tour like this and she is traveling to some areas that have Zika. She will still go to those islands but they are cutting out a few of the activities and sending Harry to those solo. Since they are representing the queen and all parts of the tour are carefully vetted by Buckingham Palace the queen had to know before they left on the tour. I think they waited as long as the absolutely could and it came down to discreetly telling granny at the wedding and since they weren’t sitting next to the queen and the queen arrives last they probably told her sometime after the wedding. I don’t think they were in any way insensitive to Eugenie. The press spent the weekend covering Eugenie and speculating about whether Megan was pregnant. Megan did her best to hide her pregnancy and let the attention be on Eugenie. If she had announced sooner the focus would have been on her.

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    keyblade October 16, 2018, 2:17 pm

    @Kate “I think people should honestly think more about what’s appropriate, what’s polite, what’s attention-seeking, and what’s over-sharing.”

    I generally agree with you. People do have to live with each other and hopefully individuals are consistently considering themselves and their own choices and impact on other people, especially their family.

    But as far as my quote goes:

    “You made your point, your royal auntie, you didn’t approve. If I was Megan, I’d make a point to avoid social engagements with you in the future. Too much hassle.
    That was not directed at anyone in general. It was specific only to the mental picture of an English duchess furiously posting wedding news online in an effort to drown out attention her niephew’s wife if receiving in lieu of her own daughter.

    I have enjoyed this thread even though it isn’t fully clear to me that the Duchess even was posting about her daughter’s wedding to cast some slight disapproval of Megan Merkle’s pregnancy. Maybe they’re close and she thinks she’s doing her nephew and wife a favor by taking the spotlight off of her belly in a vulnerable time. I wasn’t actually trying to be offensive.

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      keyblade October 16, 2018, 2:20 pm

      edit: her *nephew’s wife *was receiving

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    Oracle October 17, 2018, 12:18 pm

    It was poor form. They could have waited till they got back from Australia. So what is there was speculation that she was pregnant. It appears they want the attention to always be on them. Just tacky.

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      keyblade October 17, 2018, 12:34 pm

      I find that rich coming from someone who has posted about enjoying President Trump’s tweets. That was you, wasn’t it?

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        Bittergaymark October 17, 2018, 12:41 pm

        Really? Who the fuck cares? I despise Trump and am sick of America making excuses for rich asshats who can’t even quietly enjoy their absurd life of wealth and privilege.
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        Frankly, there is a reason royalty and politicians rarely survive revolutions. Moreover, it is clearly high time for one now. But no… instead the muddled masses simply ooh and ahh over the utter vapidity and obnoxiousness of some american expat brat.
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        Seriously? I give up.

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        keyblade October 17, 2018, 12:54 pm

        And what revolution do you suggest? What type of government and everyday citizens way of life do you envision in a post revolution?

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        Bittergaymark October 17, 2018, 1:03 pm

        A ratherviolent one where the 1% are all either beheaded or boiled alive in their swimming pools.
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        After the redistribution of wealth, we will have healthcare and roads that fucking drivable. The Uber rich have proven themselves to be selfish assholes and the world would do well to rid itself of such trash.

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        saneinca October 17, 2018, 1:18 pm

        That is a disastrous philosophy – as was proven in every communistic country.

        Even China had to adopt a faux capitalistic system just to feed its starving masses.

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        ele4phant October 17, 2018, 1:22 pm

        Well – that escalated quickly.

        How did we get from having a fun, light, meaningless fight about etiquette to calling for a bloody communist revolution?

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        Bittergaymark October 17, 2018, 1:27 pm

        Look around, fools. It’s disastrous here. America is on the brink of collapse. Don’t believe me? Hah. Just wait. Wait.

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        Kate October 17, 2018, 1:33 pm

        BGM has been talking about a bloody revolution for a while, but Keyblade apparently didn’t realize that and asked the question.

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        Bittergaymark October 17, 2018, 1:35 pm

        Fear not. The Revolution will never happen. Everybody is far too busy snapchatting…

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        ele4phant October 17, 2018, 2:04 pm

        Well, clearly an advice column primarily devoted to relationships is the right place to hash this out.

        Some of us like escapism once in a while to deal.

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    keyblade October 17, 2018, 1:25 pm

    If the top 1% were killed off indiscriminately through what I assume would be acts of terrorism, without regard to their politics, charity, or actions, wouldn’t there just be people from the former top 5% ready to take their place and maintain peace for those who don’t want to perpetuate violence and destruction? Don’t you think the bottom economic third also includes truly destructive humans who would happily re- segregate the country based on physical desirability, favors, personal loyalty, their own personal ambition and moral codes? Perceived “fitness”? Do you think people would suddenly stop working for what is personally gratifying to them and the people they favor? I’m frustrated, too, but one of the key components of federalism is the stability provided by checks and balance, not necessarily fast social progress, because when things move quickly they also can change just as fast and people revert to guilds.

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    keyblade October 17, 2018, 1:40 pm

    Mea culpa. I started the escalation by pointing out the poster under the name Oracle gleefully enjoys President Trump’s tweet. Maybe I should let it drop.

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