August 11, 2021 at 8:19 am #1096540
Bernie was not electable. But I do know that Bernie fanboys and girls were targeted by Russia with ALL of the messaging about Hillary that you parrot on here. It happened to my friend’s husband. He was a staunch Bernie supporter, and then started posting on Reddit about how Hillary was so corrupt and worse than Trump and actually Trump wouldn’t be that bad. I remember my friend telling me how corrupt and awful Hillary was, and I was like, where is she getting this? It was 100% part of Russia’s misinformation campaign to make sure Hillary lost (by flipping Bernie bros). I think they got to you too.
No one was going to beat Trump in 2016.August 11, 2021 at 8:33 am #1096541
Here’s a more measured/realistic look at the claim Hillary attacked these women. I think I’ve shared this with you before.
And this:August 11, 2021 at 9:07 am #1096542Prognosti-gatorParticipant
I wasn’t a fan when HRC first ran for senate in NY. I felt it was a very “convenient” way to start your career by running in a state that has a good amount of political clout and allows carpetbaggers to run.
But, by the time the 2016 presidential elections came around, she actually did have years of relevant experience that couldn’t be argued (senate, sec of state)
The one thing I will give her, is that she’s very image conscious. I think she actually cares about her legacy. So, I don’t think she’d have done anything stupid. She’d have tried to do a good job so that history treated her favorably, rather than openly doing things to line the pockets of her and her friends like 45 did.
That said, she’s still a politician, so there IS a layer of slime there – but that’s somewhat hard to avoid in this 2-party, winner takes all system we use.August 11, 2021 at 9:54 am #1096546LisforLeslieGuest
I voted for him, knowing he had a pretty shady approach to politics, but republicans stock the state legislature so a Democratic governor is a necessity.
Cuomo was out there every day with sensible alerts and realistic guidance – a baseline for a governor. I was talking to someone and they were like “Well Cuomo’s a good guy” and I started laughing like a maniac and had to explain that while he was dealing with terrible circumstances better than others, he was corrupt through and through. Does anyone remember the commission investigating his dealings that he just disbanded? Yeah, I remember that.
It was the women around him that protected him that I want punished just as much. Just like I want all the people that protected Bill Cosby punished. All we can do is name and shame though.August 11, 2021 at 10:00 am #1096547LisforLeslieGuest
Hillary and the DNC made a deal. The DNC is as corrupt as the RNC. Both pick candidates based on a number of factors, one of which is who can bring in the donors – that’s why the former guy still has the support of the RNC, because they continue to make millions off his name. The Clintons brought in big money donors.
I would have still voted for her. As I explained at the time – when I think about my safety, my finances and my family who would I trust to take care of me? If I had kids, would I leave them for an afternoon with Hillary or with the Cheeto? If I had $100 would I give it to Hillary to invest or the orange moron? Would I invite these people into my home – only one gets an open door. I’m sure the same question was asked on the other side and they figured Cotton Candy Head was better for them.August 11, 2021 at 10:11 am #1096548
Also please don’t forget there were allegations against Bernie of sexism and sexual harassment on his campaign that he may not have appropriately addressed.