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    SpaceySteph
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    I do like the idea of asking them to give the contact info and to call you to discuss the dog situation. If you’re worried about giving out your actual number, get a google voice number or a burner number online, or a cheap prepaid cell and give that number.

    Then after this ordeal is over if you ended up keeping the dog they can’t continue to harass you.

    But I lean towards giving the dog back and adopting a different one. This way the dog gets his original owners (who he probably bonded with and misses) and you save another dog from a kill shelter, which seems like a win/win.

    ETA: for $5 you can get a burner number here (you only need it for a month and then can cancel) https://www.burnerapp.com/

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    Ele4phant

    Yeah we just don’t see eye to eye here on this.

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    Kate
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    Everyone involved should be grateful this loving dog wasn’t euthanized.

    There was a story in the news recently about a family whose young dog nipped a kid and had to be in temporary quarantine by law. Understaffed shelter, cleaning staff puts him in the wrong cage, he is euthanized. That’s what we’re dealing with here. And the IP address of the LW is not a blue state like MA or CA.

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    Copa
    Copa
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    The hold rule is pretty standard. And I’m assuming this adoption event was in-shelter, in which case the animal with a hold on it would, at a minimum, have a sign outside of its kennel saying it was not available for adoption. (My city’s animal care and control keeps these animals in a separate area but not all do.)

    In my experience volunteering for shelters and rescues, there are a lot of people out there who are loving owners who still do stupid things because they don’t seem to know any better. It’s baffling to someone like me who basically treats her dog like a human child, but I’ve seen it many times. But FWIW the shelters and rescues I’ve volunteered for, when they meet these kinds of owners, will do what they can to keep the dogs with their owners and help them understand what responsible ownership looks like, where to seek financial assistance, where to find sliding scale vets, etc. I think it’s shitty that the shelter contacted LW after the adoption was final. It may have been an attempt to keep the dog with its original owner, but it put LW in a weird position.

    Anyway, I wouldn’t feel great keeping a dog in these circumstances. I’d feel uncomfortable being in the position the shelter put LW in. I do think the dog would be happiest with its original owners — that’s his fam! — and I do think the shelter would help make sure they are better owners going forward because that’s part of what they do. There are lots of great, adoptable dogs out there at shelters and rescues, and LW could actually save two lives that way.

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    Ele4phant

    And if these people want this dog back, she can adopt a new one, meaning two dogs have stable homes, not just one.

    That’s a good thing, right?

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    Kate
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    I don’t know if it’s a good thing. I personally don’t think dogs bond with just one person or family and can’t be happy with others, and I see no evidence this was a great home for the dog. Based on their behavior, he may have been neglected. They’re not going to admit that on the phone.

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    Kate
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    They could want him back and still be people who leave their dog in the yard all day tied to a tree without exercise or play.

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    bittergaymark
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    For the love of safety and sanity — DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
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    That is just asking for harassment by dubious questionable people. Seriously, do NOT do that. No way. No day. Worst idea on here in ages. No, seriously. People are FUCKING nuts.
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    Keep the dog. The original owners sound pretty fucking awful.

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    Ele4phant

    I mean, I don’t know what to say anymore.

    My opinion is my opinion for the OP to consider or disregard. She has the dog now, she can do what she wants with it.

    Ultimately I think the shelter holds most of the blame here, not OP, not previous owners – even if they failed to meet the timeline. You may disagree here, but I don’t think it was right to show or accept applications for an animal that wasn’t cleared to adopt yet. And if rules are rules about when they’ll give the dog away and original owner blows it, that should’ve been it and it kind of sucks they’re dragging OP back into this situation. If the adoption went through, then maybe it should’ve just been, sorry it’s done. Dog is just gone.

    If it were me, I would err towards giving the dog back to the original owners if they made continued efforts to reclaim it. Absent obvious signs of abuse, I’m not going to nitpick or speculate on their emotional connection to their dog, or their capacity to provide a good home. The dog apparently came in in good health and in good temperament, not exhibiting obvious signs of abuse or neglect. Is there a possibility they can’t or didn’t provide adequately for it, or that worse, they abused or neglected the dog? Maybe…but it would seem there is less evidence of that than that they were able to provide at least an adequate home.

    Personally I would want to keep the dog with a clean conscience that I gave the previous owners a shot here to reunited with their dog.

    If you or the OP wouldn’t, that’s fine, I don’t think it’s morally reprehensible to decide case close, this is my dog now. But she asked for opinions, and this is mine.

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    Ele4phant

    And if you don’t want to give them your number, set up an email just for correspondence with them. You don’t have to invite them to hassle you forever, but you can open a way for them to contact you directly, if they want to, without endangering your privacy or giving them a permanent pipeline to you.

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    Kate
    Keymaster

    All right, I’m not going to keep saying the same thing, but I care more about the dog than the people, and I believe he’s in a good home now.

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    SpaceySteph
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    I agree the shelter effed this up. They should have told the owners the hold expired and the dog was gone and not involved the OP.

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