January 9, 2019 at 9:06 pm #815095
The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads…January 9, 2019 at 9:19 pm #815096
Uh we did ask for an explaination and were given one.January 9, 2019 at 11:41 pm #815106
Not just you JD. Besides when she did explain she was still jumped on. If the chav fits wear it.
Kate bogans are sort of like rednecks but not always with the rural hillbilly aspect. Bogans can live in a city just as comfortably as they can in the country. Sort of like white trash with a touch of redneck? Funnily enough one of Eric Bana’s most loved characters in his early career was a bogan named Peter (Poida): https://youtu.be/bP6j6THhNcg
Sadly most bogans are a lot more racist than that character. For further reference see Area 7s ‘nobody likes a bogan’ https://youtu.be/BDXRT53QduUJanuary 9, 2019 at 11:46 pm #815108
Also the seminal Australian show Housos:
https://youtu.be/7FLefPaXQ8EJanuary 10, 2019 at 12:17 am #815109
@ange, I apologize for my part in offending British, Australians, High Schoolers, and Chavs, alike.
The only reason I asked what was meant by “chav” was because I was unfamiliar with the term and looked it up. The definition didn’t seem to fit with other comments made about it being “cruel”. I figured a high schooler might have her own regional associations with the word.
“Then I was just waiting in the dinner line and loads of these girls came up to me and they where right chavs from the upper year and started asking me to sing and it wasn’t to many of them and they wouldn’t leave me alone so I sang like a little bit in that stupid voice”
“ But then I was outside in the same lunch break and like at least 20 people came up to me and then my best friend just ditched me. And started asking me to sing and I kept saying no and they didn’t leave, I don’t know what I would of done if the bell didn’t go.”
I was trying to determine if Freya was worried about being attacked or having the situation escalate to getting very bullied later. If that had been the case, my advice would have been different then if was a mob of kids just chanting and goading her on.
Her follow-up clarification didn’t fit with how I would picture physically violent juvenile delinquents.
“But chav basically means someone who is common and they all look like each other cause they wear all the same clothes and all have massive eyebrows.”
What I took from this comment was that these were kids that try to fit in with each other. It’s been my experience that kids who try to fit in will chorus along to a crowd. I couldn’t tell if “common” was referring to class as described in the formal definition or intellectual deficiencies which sometimes make insecure kids act meaner to other high school kids.
For the record, I love bumpkins so I’ll bet I’d like bogans who aren’t racist. Where I’m from, the term red-neck is kind of endearing.January 10, 2019 at 12:21 am #815110
@Kate- you’re definitely playing more of a plastic Regina George on this thread.January 10, 2019 at 5:42 am #815119
No Keyblade, I’m not being a mean girl. I gave compassionate advice to the LW. This thing about regional or cultural slang comes up time and again, as Ange pointed out, and there are so many resources online to look them up before you ask “what’s a ____?” If you look it up and it still doesn’t make sense, sure, ask for clarification if it’s relevant. JD jumped on her for using the term at all.January 10, 2019 at 12:14 pm #815167
I can’t imagine a context in which calling someone white trash with a touch of redneck is anything but horribly offensive, personally.
But perhaps that’s OK in Australia.January 10, 2019 at 7:36 pm #815269
If the chav fits….January 10, 2019 at 7:43 pm #815272
My dad and 10 step siblings (yes that many good grief) live in Australia and I’ve never heard them use many of the terms people often do. Not sure if it’s the area they live. That being said i flat out cannot understand my sister when she talks. Haha. She talks so fast and the accent combined I can just peice together words to figure out what she is saying.January 10, 2019 at 8:03 pm #815278
Aside from “white trash” having unfortunate racist connotations (not against white people), i don’t think those terms are horribly offensive. People identify with being a redneck or trailer trash or hillbilly and joke about it. Like Ange said, if it fits… Also, the LW didn’t call the kids chavs, she used the term here when telling the story so we could picture what kind of kids were harassing her. Except we can’t because we’re Americans.January 10, 2019 at 8:06 pm #815279
Honestly? Most white people in flyover states are white trash. I should know. I fled all that useless fucking garbage.