Tagged: Ex employer issues
- November 20, 2019 at 2:24 am #860466sammy952019Member
I just quit my job at an appliance store because it was getting too stressful. The manager was very disorganized.she always changed the schedule and barley gave notice. She had her specific favorite people who sat at the back all day and did nothing so majority of the work load fell on people like me who were not her favorite. If I would finish my work and have a short conversation with another coworker she would tell me to stop talking and look professional. She gave promotion to the people who start at the company after me. And never kept up with my training. So after 8 long stressful months I gave a 2 week notice and quit the job. But before I left I emailed a formal written feedback of my manager. I waited a couple of days and never received an acknowledgement of the email. So I forwarded a copy to the company’s vice president who didn’t bother acknowledging that email as well and basically HR contacted me saying they didn’t feel obligated to reply back since it was just a feedback and not a complaint. They also said that more could’ve been done if I came forward during my time of employment. But the thing is I submitted the complaint a week before my last day and they never even bother to acknowledge it and they had the audacity to tell me they cant do anything because I’m not employed with them anymore. This has really upset me and I’m wondering what else I could do about it.November 20, 2019 at 6:29 am #860491KateKeymaster
There’s nothing else you can do about it. Stop contacting them.
Generally managers give the most hours to who they consider to be the best workers. It sounds like yours didn’t necessarily see you as one of the best. She maybe thought you spent too much time socializing and not enough time mastering the job and working hard. You said something about her not keeping up with your training, but you could have been more proactive about getting the training you needed.
Or maybe she really does play favorites and you just weren’t her favorite.
Complaining on your way out the door is pointless. Maybe if they hear a lot of the same complaints about the same manager, eventually they’ll do something, but no way are they going to take action based on your letter.
Finally, it’s almost always best to find a new job before quitting the current one.
November 20, 2019 at 9:03 am #860516Prognosti-gatorMember
- This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by Kate.
What were you expecting should happen?
The company receives a complaint, by a lower level worker who is on their way out the door … were you expecting them to fire the manager on your say so alone? As Kate says, if they get a lot of feedback that all says the same thing, then they have something to go on, but a single disgruntled employee isn’t the most uncommon thing in the workplace.
I’m sure if HR went to the manager right now, that manager would have a story about why YOU were the problem. Then they have a you-said/they-said situation. But, the difference being that one of the people is still with the company, so they have an interest in keeping THAT person happier.November 20, 2019 at 9:30 am #860518EssieParticipant
What else can you do? Let it go and look for a better job, just like the rest of us who’ve had crappy jobs with crappy managers.
I’m also not sure what result you want here. Do you want her fired on the basis of your complaint? Not gonna happen. You don’t even mention anything actionable here. She wasn’t sexually harassing employees or stealing from the store. At worst, she was an indifferent manager who wasn’t great at her job and sometimes played favorites. You’re going to run into a lot of managers like her.November 20, 2019 at 10:42 am #860536
I’m not sure what you thought was going to happen. I don’t think what you did was the best move because you’ve now burned a bridge and won’t be able to use this company or your former manager as a reference. You’re now that person who left in a huff expecting her manager to be fired.
Most of us have hated a job and/or our boss at some point in time. When that happens and you decide you can’t take it anymore, the best thing to do is find a new job before quitting and be as gracious as possible on your way out in case you ever need them for something moving forward. If you need to flame the company, do so anonymously online via Glassdoor or the review section of Indeed.November 20, 2019 at 12:00 pm #860553sammy952019Member
Thank you all for your replies.
Of course I understand the fact that they won’t fired her just because one person complained. I was just expecting them to understand my side because I was a hardworker and I myself trained those employees who got promoted before me so I expected to be appreciated and eventually wanted to receive a promotion.She also gosspied a lot and would make another person in the same position as me do her managerial tasks like making the schedule. Whats done is done now. I’m thinking of writing a review on indeed and Glassdoor ofcourse. For next time what sort of steps should I take during my employment if I end up with a bad manager again?November 20, 2019 at 12:24 pm #860560anonymousseMember
Don’t write anything on glassdoor. You just sound like an angry, disgruntled employee. Its not helpful for you. It’s not going to get her fired. I’m sorry you didn’t get along with her, or respect her at work but you’ve quit, burned a bridge that’s left you without a good reference and left feedback with the VP. What else are you expecting to happen?
No company is going to fire a manager for one disgruntled former employee’s complaints. There really isn’t much that sounds that strange as far as how a manager manages. Short notice is unfortunately pretty common for schedule changes in retail jobs. Promoting others over you happens, and it often comes down to attitude and drive. Her having someone else write a schedule is often considered part of training, and isn’t her shirking her duties. There’s not much you wrote to go on for reasons she should be fired or reprimanded.
And the only thing all that has really done is hurt your resume. Now you can’t use that job or the manager as a reference.November 20, 2019 at 12:26 pm #860561
So I’ve personally never felt like I had much recourse when I hated my boss. I only really, truly hated one — he was awful and a shark, I felt overworked, unheard, and bullied. (Dude literally joked in a meeting with him, me, and a client that he kept his direct reports chained to their desks so that we’d meet deadlines and not quit.) I tried a few times to have what I thought were reasonable conversations with him, but it didn’t work and I think made things worse. Instead of fighting it, I decided the place wasn’t for me. I kept my head down at work and did my absolute best. There were some weird email exchanges that I forwarded copies of to my personal email in case I ever needed them. I also documented emails I received from coworkers and clients who thought I was doing a great job. Not sure how much this would’ve helped had we ended up in a serious he-said/she-said type situation where my employment was at risk, but that never happened. I job hunted and when a good opportunity came along, I took it. (Still here over 2.5 years later!) I didn’t badmouth him on my way out, just said it was a bad fit in my exit interview.
I have, luckily, only experienced bad fit job situations, never a situation where my manager was behaving in a way so inappropriate that the company would or could take action. Generally speaking, I’m wary of HR. I may have it totally wrong, but they’re invested in protecting the company, not necessarily the employee. If I were being harassed or there was something actionable happening, I’d be documenting things and going to HR.
Try to find a good fit when you’re still at the interview stage. When I was at the company I hated, I made it to the final round of interviews with another company and HATED the CMBDO. I withdrew my candidacy because I didn’t want to end up in another crappy situation.November 20, 2019 at 12:29 pm #860562Miss MJGuest
“I’m wary of HR. I may have it totally wrong, but they’re invested in protecting the company, not necessarily the employee.”
THIS. I do employment law and not once have I ever seen a case where HR actually did anything helpful. (Not saying that they don’t – if they do, then those cases don’t end up with me!) I have seen multiple cases where HR actively started documenting “problems” with the employee who complained, though.November 20, 2019 at 12:30 pm #860563anonymousseMember
Next time, maybe try to be more understanding about schedule changes and why someone else might be better suited for a promotion. If someone you believe is a bad employee is promoted above you and you’ve not gotten any feedback about it, ask for feedback. Ask how you can get promoted. Ask for more work. Ask for more training. Be a problem solver, not the person pointing out all the problems. Help the manager- roll with the punches. Be positive. That’s how you get a promotion. If you go into a job with negative comments and complaints, you will probably not be promoted. Most businesses want a proactive leader who will take charge and get the job done without bringing negativity into it.November 20, 2019 at 12:30 pm #860564
I also completely disagree with the comment to not go to Glassdoor. I wouldn’t go off on a tirade about your experience (your review will be taken down if it comes across as a hateful, retaliatory rant), but if you can write an honest and thoughtful review, it IS helpful for job seekers to read other people’s experiences. (I gave my old company three stars even though I hated working there to my very core. I had a horrible manager and my workload was insane because we had astounding turnover rates. But, I loved a lot of my coworkers, had a lot of autonomy in what I did, and grew a lot as a person and professional while there.)November 20, 2019 at 12:40 pm #860568
I have seen multiple cases where HR actively started documenting “problems” with the employee who complained, though.
Heh. So, aforementioned terrible company. At one point, when I’d been there for like six weeks, half of my department was either fired or quit in the span of two weeks. So I suddenly had a ton of work dumped on me as a new employee. My boss was unhappy with how a few of these projects were going mere days after they were assigned to me, so he dragged me into his office and yelled at/berated me. I started crying during the meeting. (I wrote into this site about it!) They totally made me meet with HR after that. I could tell they were simultaneously nervous I’d quit when we were already in a terrible situation staff-wise, but they also seemed to be starting some CYA documentation. That was such a messed up workplace. And if I’d paid more attention to the Glassdoor reviews, I could’ve avoided them altogether.