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    avatargreen1
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    I recently transferred to another department at the large organization I work for it’s going well. A Colleague asked why I transferred & I told them;they said I was a victim of discrimination. Story: At start director was overly familiar but it was ok. For a yr, was me her & secretary that started right after me. She started getting more controlling and would often say things like “I am so disappointed in you and can’t stand to look at you right now.” This happened when secretary ordered the wrong pens and once when I left a form in my desk drawer and not in the file folder. The dept. was expanded, She hired 3 people all the same gender and race/ethnicity as her.I was in interviews & others had equal or even greater qualifications than those she selected. I was the only male & the only one of my ethnicity. The secretary was older and a female of a different race as the other 3. She then moved me to the worst most remote office and the newest got mine.She’d always give negative feedback to me only; if I got praised from other departments she would be furious. If we went to meetings and I knew people she would get angry. One meeting she said secretary & I were conspiring against her. She made us text everyone when we went to lunch, arrived, were late etc. once She yelled at me that I didn’t text that I as going to be late only when I arrived I had to send her a screenshot w/ timestamps.She would berate secretary in front of others, even visitors. She would never tell be good work and would send group tests thanking everyone by name except me. Every idea l had she said it was not good someone else would say the same and it was great. When we went virtual she would always ask me where I was and a few times had me show the entire space. The one she gave my office too, would clearly be out walking running errands getting nails done and she wouldn’t say anything. Once newest hire said to me “ she treats you so differently than us & she seems sadistic to poor secretary” Director fired the secretary & had a meeting to make sure we all knew. I finally told her I had put in for a transfer. She said “ I won’t say anything bad about you.” She had no grounds to fire me. The person she hired to take my place same gender and race as her. Thoughts?

    #1031189 Reply
    avatarLisforLeslie
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    I couldn’t say it was discrimination. It was unequal treatment and it’s entirely plausible that she had issues with your gender or ethnicity but she was careful enough to not say it outright. Did you ever report that you were being treated unequally and that she was harsher and more critical? That she singled you out?

    Unfortunately if you didn’t take the time to document this treatment, it is unlikely that anyone can do anything for you now. It may be possible to open up an investigation but those often have unsatisfying results.

    In the future, if you are being treated as less than you should report it. Larger companies have compliance hotlines and you can report. You can also ask for help from your co-workers and senior management if you think they can be trusted.

    I’m sorry you had to deal with that.

    #1031190 Reply
    avatarKarebear1813
    Participant

    So your saying that your old Director was sexist and racist based on hiring similar persons of sex/skin tone but other than your visual observation, you have nothing else to back those allegations up with, right?

    Just because someone is more qualified for a position doesn’t mean they are the right fit/right personality.

    This Director appeared very vocal with you and the secretary that she wasn’t happy with eithers work ethic/performance after a year. She let you know that she was happy to hear you were transferring and she told you.

    I’d tread careful with such extreme allegations unless she has said sexiest/racist remarks. If the company allows her the ability to hire whom she believes is qualified and just because it appears sexist/racist to you, may not be that way, and could cost you your job.

    You don’t mention you have an HR department but that is who you would contact but is it worth opening up an investigation? Is this the work culture you want to remain in? How likely would this company take your claim? Would it put you at risk of being fired– a risk worth taking? Based on what you wrote, I am not sure you have a solid case for a compliant and it could red flag you.

    Also, Director sounds like a micromanager but could it be true that you didnt do a good job.

    #1031191 Reply
    avatargreen1
    Participant

    Thanks for the replies. I thought of reporting it before I left, but I know how political things get. Unfortunately, if the boss was a white male hiring other white males it may be taken more seriously. In this case director is a black female hiring black females. I’m a Hispanic male and she’d go between referring to me as white and Hispanic depending on who had pissed her off. Once she told me I needed to be like Joe Biden and even though I looked a certain way I should know my place. When she moved me to the remote office it had no bathroom I had to go out in the rain and walk far, she told me now I know how the women in hidden figures felt. I think I’m still a little traumatized. I live and work in a diverse community and haven’t always liked everyone, but never felt it was discrimination.
    As far as my job, I had great feedback from clients and colleagues from other departments who would request me specifically to collaborate.
    She never gave me a bad evaluation they were always good. Her issues with me were personal not work related.

    #1031194 Reply
    avatargreen1
    Participant

    Thanks for the replies.

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 3 days ago by avatargreen1.
    #1031196 Reply
    avatarKarebear1813
    Participant

    Based on those 3 incidences you just stated, she needs to be reported. You have grounds for a complaint!

    #1031197 Reply
    avatarEle4phant
    Guest

    So – at minimum she sounds like a terrible manager and the broader environment very dysfunctional. Were you being treated unfairly because of your race and/or gender? Honestly I’m not sure I can say, I’m not an employment lawyer and I’m not clear on all the details in your later.

    I do think you could find an employment lawyer and ask for a consultation – I think even if you’ve left that organization (it’s not clear to me if you were transferred internally or are at a whole new employer – if you’re still with the same company you could probably still contact H&R too).

    A professional – like an employment lawyer – is going to be much better suited than strangers online to say whether or not you faced discrimination, and if you did, what recourse may still be available to you.

    #1031198 Reply
    avatarKate
    Keymaster

    Does your state have a Council on Discrimination or similar? I would def talk to them first (should be free) before addressing this with the company.

    * in your state it looks like it’s the commission on human relations. Talk to them and see what they think. Like others, I can’t say for sure this is discrimination or just poor management or both.

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 3 days ago by avatarKate.
    #1031200 Reply
    avatarKate
    Keymaster

    But yeah, without you having documented anything while you were there, I’m not even sure if filing a complaint is feasible.

    #1031201 Reply
    avatargreen1
    Participant

    Thanks again for the replies. I am still working in the same organization it was a department I would collaborate with and they were happy to have me transfer. It’s a lot better of a situation.
    I did write things down when they happened. I think the old supervisor definitely has some issues. She is controlling and a micromanager in general,but I was treated differently and the secretary was treated terribly much worse than me she would make her cry. We went to a meeting once and someone asked if I was the director and she got worse after that. I would show no expression. At this point I am glad to be gone speaking up won’t do anything I don’t think. I am going to counseling to address it because I don’t want to carry it with me.

    #1031202 Reply
    avatarele4phant
    Guest

    I agree with Kate – reach out to the Commissions of Human Relations in your state.

    Share with them what you documented. See what they say about moving forward.

    They will be in a much better position to advise you then we are.

    #1031203 Reply
    avatargreen1
    Participant

    Thank You
    I appreciate it.

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