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    avatarKalispell
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    Is it illegal to tell someone your pregnant and ask for money for an abortion if your not actually pregnant? Friend is pregnant and wants me to take her positive pregnancy test to a few guys I have been with to ask for abortion money. She says it’s legal and the money is legally a gift. It seems like something we could be arrested for.

    I asked on legal advice Reddit but they refused to answer and took down my question repeatedly regardless of how I worded it.

    #885337 Reply
    avatarAnonymous
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    I don’t know if it is illegal. I would assume that it is illegal since you are fraudulently asking them for money based on a lie. I can tell you for sure that it is immoral. Why on earth would you want any part in this legal or not? Say no. I understand that times are tough right now, and money might be scarce. Lying to prior sexual partners about a nonexistent baby is not the way to make ends meet.

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    avatarAnonymous
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    I don’t know if it is illegal. I would assume that it is illegal since you are fraudulently asking them for money based on a lie. I can tell you for sure that it is immoral. Why on earth would you want any part in this legal or not? Say no. I understand that times are tough right now, and money might be scarce. Lying to prior sexual partners about a nonexistent baby is not the way to make ends meet.

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    avatarAnonymous
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    I don’t know if it is illegal. I would assume that it is illegal since you are fraudulently asking them for money based on a lie. I can tell you for sure that it is immoral. Why on earth would you want any part in this legal or not? Say no. I understand that times are tough right now, and money might be scarce. Lying to prior sexual partners about a nonexistent baby is not the way to make ends meet.

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    avatarEssie
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    I’m not a lawyer, but it sounds like fraud to me. At the very least, you could be sued.

    But let’s take a step back for a moment. Whether or not you get arrested, how would you feel about doing this to men you’ve been with? Lying about being pregnant? Getting money out of them under false pretenses? It’s disgusting. Morally, ethically, it’s no better than theft. What a trashy thing to do to someone.

    And I love how your “friend” wants *you* to be the one to go out and con your sex partners out of money to give to her. Because if you do this and it turns out to be illegal, it won’t be “we” that gets arrested. It’ll be you. And she’ll swear she knew nothing about it.

    For the love of god, find better friends.

    #885342 Reply
    avatarLisforLeslie
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    I don’t think there are any legal issues – but I am not a Lawyer. However if the guy finds out that he was scammed out of money – he could take her to small claims court.

    In short, she’s being a shitty person. It’d be better to simply get paid for sex instead of faking a pregnancy.

    #885344 Reply
    avatarAnonymous
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    With the caveat that I’m not a criminal lawyer and this isn’t legal advice, yeah, I think that yes, this satisfies the elements for fraud. And generally there’s something pretty messed up about your decisionmaking if you’d seriously consider doing something like this.

    #885346 Reply
    avatarAnonymous
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    Yeah, this is theft by fraud. And depending on how many people you defraud with this scheme (really how much money you get), it can be a felony and result in serious jail time. At best, it’s a misdemeanor with fines and penalties and a criminal conviction if you get caught, even if you avoid jail. Is it worth taking 100% of the jail risk to split the money 50/50 (I assume) with your friend? This is a really stupid idea. Don’t do it.

    #885347 Reply
    avatarAnonymous
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    With the caveat that I’m not a criminal lawyer and this isn’t legal advice, yeah, I think that yes, this satisfies the elements for fraud. And generally there’s something pretty messed up about your decisionmaking if you’d seriously consider doing something like this.

    #885348 Reply
    bittergaymarkBittergaymark
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    The LW is just as shitty as she’s going to scam the people she slept with. I’d say this is fraud. If nothing else only a deranged sociopath would pull this shit. I’d love to use a much stronger word here.

    You need better friends. I weep for the child who is about to be born to utter garbage. Trash like that shouldn’t be reproducing. Here’s an idea… Get the money and get HER the abortion as a gift to humanity.

    #885354 Reply
    avatarFYI
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    If Reddit decides your behavior is too low for them to post, then you know you’re scraping the very bottom of the barrel. C’mon, LW. Try to be a decent person. Tell this idiot friend of yours that you won’t do it, and then watch your back. If she is this stupid and malicious, then it won’t be long before she comes for you.

    #885356 Reply
    avataranonymousse
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    It’s really sad to me that you can’t see for yourself how twisted and wrong this idea is. And that you didn’t see that after posting it to reddit. And still you don’t see it.

    You’re contemplating committing fraud. Your “friend” enlisted you because then you would assume the legal risks, and I am assuming she wants money for giving you the test stick and the idea. So you could end up in jail, sued, with charges against you- I don’t know because I’m not a lawyer- and she’ll just pocket the money you give her.

    She is trying to take advantage of you. And you’re so gullible.

    Please, use protection and don’t be a shitty person who takes advantage of others for your own personal gain.

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