May 3, 2021 at 8:47 am #1059064FyodorGuest
“3. He’s complaining about you – but he’s not talking to you directly. You guys have a big communication problem.”
Is this true? She doesn’t sound surprised by the complaint. It sounds like she just doesn’t take it seriously.May 3, 2021 at 11:23 am #1059228BittergaymarkGuest
I’m sorry —- but this whole pearl clutching about how he’s complaining about her behind her back is pretty rich.
Damn near EVERY good friend I have that is married HAS complained or vented to me about their spouse. Often quite a bit. It’s normal!! PS —- This is equally true of both men and women in my world, and, thus hardly any great sin or betrayal.May 3, 2021 at 11:31 am #1059237
I actually don’t think it’s that normal or healthy to vent about your spouse to your friends. Do people do it? Sure. Is it a good idea? No. Vent to your therapist or divorce lawyer. Or to your spouse, actually!
The problem with airing your dirty laundry outside a marriage is you are intending to be with that person for a lifetime, in a partnership. If you’re regularly bitching to everyone around you, it can be a real invasion of the spouse’s privacy, and also taint people’s opinions of them going forward in a way that might not even be fair, and that YOU might not want. It also frankly burdens your friends or family members who you’re doing it to. It can be too much.
People should be dealing with these problems directly, imo, rather than gossiping to friends. Or leave if it’s that bad.May 3, 2021 at 11:43 am #1059253BittergaymarkGuest
No constant bitching, but the idea that a guy is complaining to a male friends about what I suspect is a very legitimate lack of sex is hardly much of a betrayal.
PS — Exactly what fantasy land do you live in where everybody has ample money to blow on therapists?May 3, 2021 at 11:46 am #1059258
I’ve never paid for therapy, other than like a $20 copay. It’s often included in your health insurance. There are online options now too.
Can everyone access free therapy? No, but it’s fairly widely available.May 3, 2021 at 11:54 am #1059268BittergaymarkGuest
The odds that somebody in their 2Os has health insurance that happily helps pays for therapy are pretty low.
Most insurance is a fucking joke.May 3, 2021 at 12:10 pm #1059284
Um ok, but when I was in my 20s with a regular office job I had access to it. It’s pretty common.May 3, 2021 at 12:11 pm #1059289
Even now, I have marketplace insurance through MA, because I’m a contractor and my husband works for a Canadian company, and it’s a pretty basic plan but it does cover this stuff.May 3, 2021 at 1:23 pm #1059359LisforLeslieGuest
I grew up in two households and it was an unwritten rule that you just don’t spend time bitching about your partner to your friends and family. As I got older I noticed that there were definitely people who did this, but that never seemed respectful. Bitching about your partner only serves one purpose: you want someone outside of your marriage to confirm that you’re right (with only half of the information). It solves nothing. It digs the other person in to a position.
And while not everyone can afford therapy, therapy is probably cheaper than divorce at this point.May 3, 2021 at 2:32 pm #1059428ronGuest
“And while not everyone can afford therapy, therapy is probably cheaper than divorce at this point.”
Only if therapy can save the marriage, and LW has given no indication that it can, although she has really said very little at all. This marriage has barely begun. Divorce is cheaper and simpler than it will ever be.
Asked what she ssaw in this guy which led her to marry him or how things were prior to marriage, she is unresponsive. I think they are just not a match. She was snooping prior to knowing he was talking about their relationship.
Both seem totally dismissive of the other and they don’t seem to communicate at all, at least meaningfully about their problems.May 3, 2021 at 2:38 pm #1059436HelenGuest
I would never say anything about my husband that I wouldn’t say to his face. I do think LW is shrugging off what he said about their sex life because its not as important to her as it is to him.
I’m in the south and there are no therapists around here who take insurance. I haven’t tried to find one lately, and I didn’t try online, but when I did search for an affordable therapist a few years ago I came up empty. And we have the best insurance. My husband works for a Canadian company. Loooove Canadian benefitsMay 3, 2021 at 2:43 pm #1059442
Just chiming in to say my divorce at 28 would have cost only a few hundred dollars (no lawyer needed, just filing fees), because we didn’t own any property or have kids.
There was a complication when I bought a condo from my parents before we were fully divorced. He could have contested that, so a payout was needed for his share of the equity. That’s when things can get $$.