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  • Manny
    May 11, 2023 at 11:43 am #1120276

    Hi.

    I rekindled with my ex-wife after over 10 years apart.
    But I am concerned, because in the years apart she have had several dates and relationships of which she is friends on social media with all but 1 person. She has in the past kept saying it’s inappropriate for me to be in touch with exes or having any connections with them. I agree, but she doesn’t live up to her own standard.

    My second issue is that she is friends with her most recent ex’s son, who is a teenager living with his dad. My ex-wife, who I am back with, told me she broke up with her ex about 2 years ago after being with him for 4 years. She loved his son. After they broke up, he moved on with another girl but it failed. A month ago he reached out to my ex and wanted to get back with her. She declined telling him she was rekindling her love with me. She told me he was jealous of me. She remain friends with her ex’s son, which I find uncomfortable and inappropriate, because I feel it leaves a door open to her. I trust my ex, but I really don’t want him to come around every 5 minutes and I feel his son is the bridge between them.

    Any thoughts on this?

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    ron
    May 11, 2023 at 12:11 pm #1120279

    MOA, you obviously don’t trust her enough and are too disapproving of how she has behaved in the ten years you were apart to be back together with her. Whatever problems led to your divorce seem to still be there. Jealousy and insufficient self-esteem.

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    May 11, 2023 at 12:34 pm #1120280

    You sound jealous and insecure. Why did you divorce? It sounds like she should stay your ex-wife.

    It’s always interesting to me when social media concerns are raised in letters because it’s like holding up a magnifying glass to someone’s insecurities. Just because two people are connected on social media, it doesn’t mean they are friends or even in touch. It only means that they are connected on social media. You’re already holding online friendships against her over something she said to you 10+ years ago.

    She was presumably somewhat of a stepmom figure to her ex’s teenage son and I think it sounds nice that she is still able to be a part of his life.

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    Manny
    May 12, 2023 at 12:28 pm #1120338

    Well, her (let’s call her Tina) and I have had some friendly conversations about it now. We agreed to disagree as we simply have different ways of viewing it.
    Back in the days (almost 20 years ago) when I was with her, she was very upset that my ex-girlfriend (let’s call her Maria) at the time, who I have a daughter with, would take my daughter to go visit my mom. At the time I lived here in the USA and my daughter and her mom + my mom, lived in Europe. So, I couldn’t just take my daughter to visit my mom myself. Tina and I lived here in the USA and she was very upset about Maria visiting my mom. She insisted that Maria was using my mom in attempt to get back with me. There was zero chance of me getting back with Maria. I had no interest in it at all. Also, Maria showed no signs, or ever told me, that she wanted to get back with me. She simply wanted our daughter to have a relationship with my mom.

    Now the situation is more or less reversed except Tina’s ex-boyfriend (Let’s call him Max) does want to get back with Tina. And Max’s son is not Tina’s son at all. In fact Max entered into a new relationship after Tina broke up with him. I believe Max’s girlfriend ended the relationship with him because she realized he had feelings for Tina, who always was in the picture because of his son. The real mom to the son got along fine with Tina. At least that’s what Tina told me.

    I don’t really feel jealous. I trust Tina doesn’t want to be with Max and that she wants to be with me. Her and I have had an abusive relationship when we were together in the past. We spent a LOT of time being insecure and putting each other down. Now many years later we have talked through all of that and we know where we went wrong.
    We didn’t divorce because of jealousy. We were deeply madly and passionately in love with each other. But we had no clue how to communicate during conflicts.
    We both look back and know we didn’t divorce because we didn’t love each other. We divorced because we were hurting each in a game of blame/defense and push/pull, which became toxic.
    We still are going through some arguments but we handle it much different now we are “adults” and have had other experiences. We have grown individually. So, now when we have a disagreement, it might get somewhat heated, but we always come out better with each other in the end.
    Tina even told me she often feel closer to me after an argument. In the past she would feel more distant to me.

    My concern is not that Tina would cheat on me or break up with me to be with Max. I trust Tina 100%.
    What I don’t like is that Max keep trying to hit on her and is using his son as a toll to get back with her. As long as he has a hope, I don’t believe he can move on. I could care less about that, but I feel Tina should cut the tie, thus allowing him to move on and find love elsewhere. It would in some way be the loving thing to do towards the son too, as the son is in the middle.
    Also what I don’t like is, that Tina defends Max by saying “I don’t want to get back with him and he is just trying”. She claims that Max is jealous of me, which tells me she is still talking with him and not just the son.
    And then there’s this: How about Max meeting someone new? How is that girl find her space in all of this? The last girl ended the relationship with Max because of her son’s relationship with Tina and Max’s indirect contact with, and feelings for, Tina.

    Essentially I look at it as Tina being selfish knowing she could stop all of this.
    She is hanging on to an ex’s son because she liked the kid.
    The kid is in the middle of everything.
    The dad (Max) wants to be with Tina.
    I’m uncomfortable with Max’s intentions and so was Max’s girlfriend.

    Tina wouldn’t have to cut the tie overnight. She simply could just little by little let the son go and then she could stay away focusing on her other friends (she has a lot), her family, herself and her relationship with me.
    I think Tina is holding on to Max’s son, because she never had children herself and really dreamed of it. She is now too old to be able to have kids on her own.
    But she has youngsters in her near family she sees and loves. Why not give them her affection instead of an ex’s son.

    All of this said: She admitted she wouldn’t have liked had I kept in touch with her family during the years her and I was apart. Reason being; because she knew I loved her and wanted to save our marriage. She said that for her to move on she wanted to cut all ties to me…
    So, why not cut the ties to her ex to allow him to move on?
    Maybe she does not want to move on from him after all?

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    ron
    May 12, 2023 at 12:52 pm #1120339

    I’m uncomfortable with Max’s intentions and so was Max’s girlfriend.

    So you are jealous, and all of the preceding was just self-denial.

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    May 12, 2023 at 1:55 pm #1120341

    I mean… you say you aren’t jealous, but you also ask: “Maybe she does not want to move on from him after all?” If you really believe that, then yes, you still have jealousy, insecurity, and trust issues. (Not to mention, in your first post, you cited social media connections with exes/past dates as a point of concern.)

    It sounds even more now after reading your lengthier response that you’re keeping score. It has been 20 years since Tina was jealous of your ex-girlfriend and you still haven’t let that go if you’re still quick to point to that as hypocrisy and a reason she shouldn’t be friends or friendly with her exes.

    It sounds like you’re setting yourself up to be back in that “game of blame/defense and push/pull.”

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    May 12, 2023 at 1:55 pm #1120342

    I mean… you say you aren’t jealous, but you also ask: “Maybe she does not want to move on from him after all?” If you really believe that, then yes, you still have jealousy, insecurity, and trust issues. (Not to mention, in your first post, you cited social media connections with exes/past dates as a point of concern.)

    It sounds even more now after reading your lengthier response that you’re keeping score. It has been 20 years since Tina was jealous of your ex-girlfriend and you still haven’t let that go if you’re still quick to point to that as hypocrisy and a reason she shouldn’t be friends or friendly with her exes.

    It sounds like you’re setting yourself up to be back in that “game of blame/defense and push/pull.”

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    Manny
    May 12, 2023 at 2:36 pm #1120343

    Hmm, you have a good point.
    I should maybe mention I have been cheated on twice and my dad cheated on my mom when I was first born. So, it kind of sticks to me thinking the worst…
    Again, Tina would not cheat on me. But I do not like exes hanging around as it disturbs my relationship… Although I guess it only disturb it Tina or I let it.

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    Anonymousse
    May 12, 2023 at 6:16 pm #1120345

    You are jealous, I just want to point out you need to call your feelings what they actually are and feel them. Own it. And let it go. This seems way over the top. If you keep up with this jealousy, she may move on from you! She likes the kid. No one wants to unfriend a child. Go to therapy if you’re feeling overly jealous. Is it possible Tina is better off not with you, considering how much overthinking you’ve done here?

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    Suze
    May 13, 2023 at 8:54 am #1120352

    The kid is a teenager, so she has been in his life for a significant amount of time. I would actually consider someone who just up and leaves a kid they’ve been a parental figure to an asshole, so I would say you should be grateful she’s not an asshole. If she has no kids of her own and she has been a stepmom and bonded with this boy it’s a beautiful thing that she can continue to be in his life, for both her and his sake. Maybe it could ease your jealousy if you start thinking of the kid as her stepson instead of her ex’s son.

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    May 14, 2023 at 1:43 pm #1120387

    “Tina wouldn’t have to cut the tie overnight. She simply could just little by little let the son go and then she could stay away focusing on her other friends (she has a lot), her family, herself and her relationship with me.”

    Reread this. Now, if this were a line in a movie, would it be said by a good guy or a bad guy?

    Don’t push her in this way. If you really trust her not to cheat on you, trust her to deal with Max. If you don’t trust her, that’s ok too, but be upfront and call it off. Don’t push her to push away the closest thing to a child she has. That’s fucked up.

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