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So When IS the "right time" to discuss gun control?

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    anonymousse
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    I wish they could be charged. That’s the kind of common sense gun reform I’d like to see. If a kid takes your gun and kills people, you get charged as an accessory and for not keeping your firearms secure. And your savings, property, etc get divided and given to victims.
    Because that’s what should happen when legal adults make moronic mistakes that cost human lives.
    Well, and of course, children under the age of 25 should not have guns.
    It really does kind of show everything you need to know about them that instead of disappearing into the ether of shame and regret, they are just going network to network $$$$

    Perfect example of the fucked up morals of this country.
    And just wait, how many outraged people will be listening to a podcast about mass murderers in the same week? Plenty.

    When we glorify murderers and make them into celebrities, depraved people with no conscience take note. They have no talent, no real ambition or drive, they just want recognition in any form`they can get it.

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    Skyblossom
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    The family will almost certainly be sued by the parents who lost kids and the jury will find for the parents. Their homeowners insurance will end up paying for it.

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    I wonder if they will, though. They were foster parents, right? I’m not sure if they can be held legally responsible. They didn’t do anything illegal. Everything was within the scope of the law, up until he pulled the trigger.

    The victims will get nothing. That couple is not wealthy. It’ll go to lawyer fees and court costs.

    Please explain how home owners insurance covers this. It didn’t happen on their property. He’s a legal adult.

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    Kate
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    That is what happened with the Columbine kids’ parents.

    I think the Snead’s are just scared shitless and trying to put it out there to the maximum degree that they “knew nothing” and thought he was a normal kid, just depressed. I don’t necessarily think they’re doing it for attention (I really hope not), but more for PR.

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    anonymousse
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    But foster parents/legal guardians are those the same thing?
    No, foster parents are glorified babysitters. He’s a ward of the state.

    Taxpayers!

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    In that case, it was their weapons that weren’t secure. The kids stole them.
    Oh, I’m sure they’ll be sued. But the victims will get nothing. Look at the LV shooter. His estate will be battled over for years. By the time it trickles down, they’ll hardly get a thing.

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    Kate
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    Yeah I don’t know. But I’m pretty sure if I had a foster dog, say, and I was walking it and it bit someone, I’d be liable and it would be paid for by my homeowner’s insurance. I just don’t know if the same would apply to a person over 18 who’s staying in your home. It might.

    Even with the Klebolds and the Harrises, the entire settlement to all the families combined (paid out of their homeowners insurance) was only $2.5mil. I was reading about it the other day. That’s jack shit for what they went through.

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    anonymousse
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    Who can say their motivation? I think it’s disgusting. Can you imagine going on TV if this were you?

    Honestly, I think this is their ‘moment’ to cash in. Who can blame them? It’s what we glorify in this country. $$ and recognition.

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    Regardless, I’d like to see them charged for negligent homocide or whatever charges even remotely relate to them AND sued to absolute destitution.

    The haven’t even taken a minute to reflect on what they did or didn’t do. Too busy concocting a story of innocence and booking appearances.

    Yes, I’m rageful. It is personal for me.

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    Kate
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    That’s right, I’m sorry for your loss.

    I have a cousin who’s always had guns and always been troubled and on drugs. My aunt will let him stay with her or, more recently, in her garage, between rehab stints that his dad pays for, because she can’t stand to see him on the street. She’ll make a thing of saying he can’t bring his guns in the house, but of course she doesn’t enforce it and looks the other way. I don’t know – and don’t want to know – if he’s ever shot anybody, but when he was still a kid he shot my aunt’s pet parrot “by accident” with a B.B. gun. That bird was supposed to live to be 100 but I think he was well under 20. And of course it was excused as an accident and swept under the rug. And never stopped anyone from letting him have guns. Another time we were on a family vacation in my parents’ vacation home, and somehow he had a gun there. My mom was bullshit, but not enough to tell my aunt to pack him up and get out of there. I can’t with parents making excuses and enabling.

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    anonymousse
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    I actually have been avoiding tv (always) clicking on his name, etc, and so I finally just read a WP article about his life history.

    So the Sneads weren’t actually foster parents, they are a friends family who let him live with them. That makes more sense vis a vis his age, etc.

    Honestly, it seems everyone knew he was a sociopath except for these people who let them into their home. I have to assume they didn’t pay much attention.

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    Kate
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    Oh yeah, they were just his friend’s parents, not actual foster parents. I wondered why people were saying “ward of the state.”

    I can kind of see it… the kid’s mom died, they didn’t really know him, they felt sorry for him, took him in, helped him get a job… it was only a couple of months, too, as his mom died in November and he was staying with someone else after that but it wasn’t working out. It’s very possible that the Snead’s DID start to think he was “off,” but they’re not going to admit that now. Or maybe they just naively thought he was only depressed.

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