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Thanks for the feedback. My friends have been alternating between telling me “it’s 2017, this is what people do” and “he just likes you a lot.” So, it’s useful to hear your thoughts.
I definitely went back and added the “work” part about the happy hour before I posted because I realized the context sounded even worse without fully explaining the event. I think the linkedin thing was worse to me because we left trivia at 10pm and it was literally in my inbox by like 10:20, and so was the email.
I think he’s ready to settle down and it’s making him overeager and trying to rush things with anyone he sees as suitable. I sort of brushed off his last request about visiting him, so if he texts again, I will let him know that I’m not interested.
Side note — I have a friend who cares a lot about height, and she will always ask me a guy’s height that I’ve met, and I can never remember! I’ll say he’s probably like my height and then I see him again and realize he’s like 5’11” or something, which is 4-5 inches taller than my estimate. 😀
So I went on a date this week, first one in a VERY long time! The guy was nice, smart, funny, cute, the only bad thing is that he’s 10 years older, which is OK, but not my favorite thing. I just don’t really feel like I’m mature enough for that.
Anyway, we met at a work-related happy hour and he came with me to trivia with my friends afterward. Right after I got home that night, he sent me an email to my work email (hadn’t given it to him) and he sent me a linkedin request. He asked me to dinner a couple days later, so I agreed.
Dinner was fine. I actually went to his house, which is not the best idea, but we were going to a late movie and he was going to feed his pets and I wanted to meet them/kill time. Hung out for a bit, missed the movie, so I went home shortly after the movie would have started. Just a hug at the end.
After that, he texted me to say he had fun and he liked me, and I said that we could hang out at the end of the week, since this is my busiest week of the year. The next day, he texted me in the morning, then in the afternoon about future things we could do. Then he texted me this morning and knowing we were both at work, said I could come visit him at his office. He also requested to follow me on twitter. I’ve responded to his texts, but not offered much more conversation beyond that. I haven’t accepted any of his social media requests.
I think this is just how he is. My co-worker hung out with him a couple of times in the past and eventually told him she was way too busy and then ghosted him when he contacted her again. I wasn’t sure if I was into him at first since I didn’t know him that well, and now I’m just feeling really claustrophobic. There are guys that I’ve liked enough to want to talk to them all the time and see them all the time, but I choose to hold back at first because I believe in getting to know someone gradually and not overwhelming them.
Thoughts? Should I hang out once more to get an idea of how I feel? Or is it not worth the energy I will probably have to expend?
The weird part to me, though, is that if it doesn’t go to a member of the family (or with the last name), it can be sold. So, why not just sell it to the member of the family who doesn’t have the last name? At that point, if it’s sold, it seems like it should no longer be under the rules from original owner.
Yeah, i was tuning about this and I’m not really understanding how it works. It doesn’t sound like a true inheritance because the current owner has no control over what to do with it. They can’t sell or give it to someone else? They can’t specify in their own will that it goes to who they want? It’s forever under the control of the original will?
Yeah, I think it would be good to find out if it truly has to go to someone with that name or if that just meant someone in the lineage.
The concerning part here, which others have pointed out, is that your fiance is handling this so poorly. It’s easy to look at this and think that it’s this particular situation that upsets him, but this indicates something about how he responds to disagreements over things that are important to him. I would be wary of what that would mean for the future — next time something big comes up that you guys disagree on, is he going to act petulant? Are you guys even going to be able to resolve that potential future issue? I’ve had friends whose partners were disappointed about the name thing (and the guys were a little confused about why they cared since they felt they were pretty liberal usually), but because they are mature people, they got over it and understood that their partners were autonomous human beings and that the name was unimportant in the scheme of things. I’m also a little curious — it’s a month away, when did you guys start discussing this?
For me, personally, I’d probably say, “this is what I’m going to do with my name. Is this something you can get over, or are you going to resent me for it?” If the answer was anything other than, “I can get over it,” then I would probably not feel ready to get married until we could establish an appropriate form of handling conflict.
“Ppl here have to put themselves in someone else’s shoes. This is NOT easy for me to do. Leaving him is near impossible (bc I can’t see it).”
Here’s the thing. You’re making the assumption that because people are saying you should break up, that they are saying it’s easy and insulting you or something. Nobody is saying it’s easy. But just because something is difficulty is no reason for a person to say, “Well, that would be difficult, so I’m not going to suggest that she do it.” If the difficulty and sadness that comes with breaking up were insurmountable, nobody would ever break up. I think you may also need to put yourself in others’ shoes because you’re not the only one who feels that they can’t see themselves without someone. Pretty much everyone who is in a serious relationship feels like that. But people make the decision to move on even though it’s hard.
I imagine you might think I’m trying to be rude during a hard time, and I’m not. But it’s pretty common for people on here to describe a barely tolerable relationship and then say, “Don’t suggest we break up because I can’t live without him.” But you can. It’s hard, and sad, and it might take months to get over it, but ALL humans are capable of surviving tough breakups. I think one of the things that keeps people (especially women) in relationships where they are being treated like crap is this fear of discomfort/pain. No one wants to go through that, but sometimes you have to put your overall wellbeing and need for a functional life/relationship above temporary pain.
Just food for thought.
I think some of your pushback is related to your idealistic view of love. A lot of people do move on from those who screw us over. It doesn’t make the love they had for that person any less important than a person who lets themselves get screwed over repeatedly. Sure, everyone makes mistakes and hurts their partner at some point, but “screwing them over”? I don’t know what your definition is of that, but to me, that’s a huge mistake and it’s usually either purposeful or knowingly. It’s not irrational to expect that a partner can somehow refrain from screwing their partner over more than once.
But you know, if you’re cool with everything (not really sure what the purpose of this thread was then), then that’s OK. But your view of love and what has to happen in order for love to be real doesn’t take into consideration the fact that a lot of people do not unconditionally love their partners.
My friend who has been online dating started out ensuring that there was a lot more messaging time before meeting. She got obnoxious messages, of course, but deleted them and went on her way. When she got more lax and started meeting guys a lot quicker, she saw the obnoxiousness in person and it was a lot more draining for her. She got to the point of deactivating a lot quicker at that point.
I personally don’t do more than a couple messages. It’s hard for me to make myself spend time messaging someone I don’t know, and I get bored quickly. So, for me, I prefer to just meet them and then either see them again or just be done with it. But I think it just depends on the person and their preferences.
I’m also curious what he says the obstacles are. I also think it reminds me of the saying “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.” He can have been through a lot of stuff and ALSO be a bad sex partner. I think you’re also assuming that being selfish in regard to sex means he’s a bad person. It can also just be someone who doesn’t put in enough effort to make sure their partner is getting what they want. Sometimes it’s just being lazy about it. Rather than do something that is outside their comfort zone or that requires learning or effort, they choose not to.
I won’t necessarily give an opinion on whether people CAN be in love after 3 months, but I will say that I personally would try to AVOID that feeling. The issue is that at 3 months, you likely have not learned enough information or observed enough experiences with them to make a logical decision on whether your compatible or not. Your situation is an example of this, where you are needing to find out more before figuring out if this has long-term potential. The issue is that if you decide you are in love at 3 months, you get much more emotionally invested. So, even if you aren’t practically compatible, suddenly you’re “in love” and can’t imagine leaving them and potentially make a lot of excuses for the incompatibility. I’m not saying you’re making excuses, but it sounds like you are hoping very much that any suggestion that he might not be a good option to be serious with can be resolved.
I initially skipped over the part where you’ve been together for three months. I think Kate and Essie both make good (but somewhat opposite) points there, and I’m sort of torn between the two views. On one hand, I think because you two have only been together for a short time, you’re both operating on a lot of assumptions. You do or don’t do or say things because you assume he’ll be uncomfortable or are worried about upsetting him, and presumably he’s acting a certain way or saying certain things because he’s assuming what you’ll like or not like or think. I think that where the shortness of the relationship comes into play is that as much as you two care about each other and have talked so far, I think that your interactions don’t sound totally genuine and sound a lot like you’re (potentially both of you) more focused on being polite than actually being honest about what each of you likes or doesn’t like or needs or whatever. You’re each potentially behaving based on how you think the other person wants you to behave, which makes it very difficult to get a good read on the relationship.
On the other hand, his issues seem to go far beyond your typical ED issues if he’s afraid to be naked in front of you. From what I understand, I think it’s common in relationships dealing with ED for there to be a rocky period of figuring out other types of intimacy and both partners not feeling satisfied and feeling guilty, etc. But what you’re describing sounds pretty extreme. I get being nervous, but if his anxiety is that serious, it’s going to be a LONG road.
If it were me, I’d be totally honest and say, “Look, I don’t care if you have ED, but the things that ARE important to me are that you initiate sometimes and that you are willing to try other things.” Or whatever. And then if he seems to make an effort in the direction that I wanted, cool. If not, then he’s probably not going to. I think the biggest issue I’ve seen when people have written or talked about stuff like this is that sometimes the partner decides that are not willing to put in the effort to have a sex/intimacy life if they can’t have sex traditionally, and that’s not really something that is sustainable in a relationship.
You said he’s avoiding exploring other things, but also that he says he wants to work on it. Is he saying he’ll try, and then not following through? Is he trying, but at a slower pace than you want? I’m a little confused. Is the issue that it may be a deal breaker for you, or is it that you don’t feel he’s putting the effort in?
I think there are two issues. One, you need to decide if you are OK with a relationship where you do not have a traditional sex life. Two, if you are, you need to consider what your benchmarks for progress are. If six months from now, he’s not tried anything new and nothing has changed, then what?
It’s good you have frank conversations. Be sure that when you have those conversations, you are asking about the things that you are curious about. It sounds like you’re trying to be considerate of his feelings, but he also needs to know what you need from him in order to be happy with the relationship.
Geez. This guy is nuts.
My friend went on a date with a guy, and at the end, he was all like, “Let me know if you want to hang out again!” So, she texted him that week and was like, “Do you want to hang out? We could go to that place you recommended this weekend or next week.” He replied that he was broke and couldn’t go out for a couple of weeks, and then kept going and was like talking about how he was having a bad day and was feeling really grumpy, and was like “It doesn’t matter when or where we hang out” (though, it clearly did, since he had turned down her first offer), and then finally was like, “I don’t really care. Let’s talk some other time.”
It was interesting because he seemingly was trying to keep her around, but not aware that he needed to not act like a jerk in order to do so. She later told me he had some untreated mental health issues (he had maintained that he didn’t need treatment right now because things were going well in his life), and the pieces started to come together.
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