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One more thing, as I’m really struggling with this, too… I often don’t ask for things explicitly because I’m super afraid of rejection. The context doesn’t even matter much. But it’s really not high stakes to say “the brewery tour you mentioned yesterday sounded like fun. I’d be interested in joining if you’d like me to. Of course we can also do something another time”. When I’m afraid of rejection I sometimes hedge my requests like that – by giving the other person an easy out.
You can even go meta and say “I just had a really good beer and thought about you mentioning the brewery tour yesterday and now I realize I wasn’t clear if you intended to invite me along. I’d definitely be up for it if that was your intention!”
Yeah, Sas, I think he and I are both kind of shy… and treading a little too lightly. I’m trying to be better though. I did tell him after the chocolate pudding text that he absolutely makes me smile. Hopefully in a few weeks, I’ll feel less awkward.
Don’t feel stupid. I’d probably have been waiting for an explicit invitation, too. And then I’d have gone through the mood shift (btw my current bf is the first one who always notices those silent mood shifts and calls me out when they happen, which has helped me to reduce the frequency of them – they don’t make a lot of sense).
Oh my gosh Sas, we’re totally alike in this regard. That was the first time he experienced one of mine. I need to be better about it. And you’re also right that I was hoping for an explicit invitation. I’ll chalk this up to we’re still learning about one another.
Yeah, I think we can all relate to that. Now I know that I’m in a place with the Cockney that I can ask if I’m invited to something he’s doing but often times, I’d rather stay home on my own 😀 I like your way of asking about the chaperon, it’s cute and will let him know that you’re interested.
Give yourself a hand though for recognising what made you feel off right away, and now you can put it right!
@Ktfran and @saslinna, I also used to do the mood shift thing and my boyfriend was really good about calling me out and telling me to ask and express my feelings. So I get it, you aren’t dumb or bad at dating, but it’s hard to ask for what you want and express your feelings. Especially if you have been rejected for it before. But setting up a good pattern of communication opens really nice doors in relationships when you both feel you have a safe space and that open communication is valued. Sometimes those first steps are pushing yourself to say what you mean and communicate your feelings, and then thanking the other person for doing the same.
The good thing is that it can almost be kind of fun to work on these communication patterns in the context of a healthy relationship. I feel like I’ve become so much more aware of my behavior and have improved a lot in the last 3 years. This is not to deny that I sometimes still fall back into my old patterns (I still sometimes do unexplained mood shifts, for example), but my awareness level is a lot higher.
It sounds like you’re already very aware, @ktfran, and like you have a good thing going with this guy. Remember that if you are right for each other then even a few missteps (not that this is even was a misstep, it’s such a minor communication failure on both sides) along the way won’t prevent you from walking further on this path. You don’t have to be perfect. I’ve screwed up rather badly along the way and it’s still working out well now. If you can be a little bolder with him, then great – it might help him to become a little bolder as well. If not, well it’s likely not going to be a huge problem either, from the way this sounds.
September 23, 2015 at 12:16 pm #383606Hi guys! I went on a second date last night! I went over to his place and we ate cheese and smoked salmon and had some wine and talked. Actually, we were talking so much I stopped eating, and by the time I got home afterwards I was extremely hungry! We also um, had the sex. And then talked again for another hour. Overall 5 hour date! We talked a lot about his work and industry (he owns his own company), my work and industry, our area we live in, the places he’s lived (he lived abroad growing up). A bunch of stuff. I guess the only thing that’s possibly worrying me is that I can’t quite tell how interested he is in me. Which maybe sounds silly since we talked so much and he was asking me a lot of questions. It may just be that I don’t know him or his personality yet. That, and he’s not super touchy feely and I am, so I’m not used to that! And, I haven’t gone on a good second date in, well, a couple of years (since my last bf, who had made it pretty clear he was interested in me). I’m trying to not let myself go down that rabbit hole of worry!
Thanks guys (ok, ladies)! It’s been so long since I’ve tried this real relationship thing and I’m trying not to repeat history too much. It’s great to be able to work things out on here instead of inside my own head. I’ll definitely say something to him next time we’re together, which will be this sometime this weekend I think.
kareSeptember 23, 2015 at 12:55 pm #383613I agree that it sounds like he was gauging your interest. Also, I always give people I’m dating an out when making plans. Of course in my experience they don’t take the out and are so excited to do things then stand you up 3 times on your birthday.
My college boyfriend (my first love) gets married this Friday to the girl he cheated on me with. So I’m going to Top Golf with my friends and celebrating the fact I’m not marrying an emotionally abusive, compulsive liar.
And congrats to everyone on getting laid!!! I like that we cover all “speeds” of the physical intimacy spectrum.
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