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I haven’t read through all the responses, so I apologize if I repeat something that’s been said. People want to imagine what their life would be like if they were with the person in the profile. It’s hard for them to do this with you because it’s mostly about your inner life within your mind. The only external stuff is about people who aren’t them, like your boss/co-workers and nephew. I like books, movies, food, etc., a lot of solitary things, but when I write a profile, I put those in but sprinkle with more active/external things. Even if it’s something you don’t do ALL the time, but just like to do. I mention hiking even though I don’t hike a lot, because I do it from time to time, and if I had someone to go with, I’d do it more (creeped out hiking alone).
Also, you need more specifics. It’s a major turn-off for me when someone won’t list actual books, music, etc., they like. It makes me think they are sort of bland. Plus, the more things you list, the more likely someone will see their favorite tv show or movie and think they should contact you.
I think both of you sort of hoped for the ideal situation. You married someone with a history of alcohol and drug problems and hoped he wouldn’t start again, and he presumably had hopes for that as well. Or he thought that once you guys were married, he could start back up and you’d have to accept it.
I understand your concerns. Any addiction (whether it is from a physically addictive substance or it’s an emotional addiction to something that makes someone feel good) affects your relationship and has a ripple effect on everything else. Plus, it’s no fun if your partner spends most of your time together high or sneaks around and lies. Aside from that, yes, him being involved in something illegal is sort of a ticking time bomb. Everything might be fine, but he also could get fired at any time. Particularly if he’s the kind of person who can’t just maintain a habit, but keeps diving in deeper. Like if after work turns into before work or not going to work (my friend’s BIL is currently in the position where he misses work to get high a lot). I think everyone is clear on the fact that drug testing catches marijuana use if it’s not before work, but I think the point was that if a person appears high, they are more likely to be drug tested.
Anyway, unless he has intentions of immediately acting to curb his habit, I’m not sure there’s much you can do to change him. You can just decide what you want for your life. I think it’s probably best to be with someone else who share similar values. Definitely make sure you don’t have kids with him before determine whether you want this to be your life.
Sorry if it sounded liked I was implying you suggested shoving. I didn’t mean shoving in a particularly violent way. Moving someone away from you and stepping back from a kiss, in a situation like this, feel very similar and I was just using it as an example of why someone might be uncomfortable handling it.
I think there’s a lot of good advice here. To be clear, you don’t need to feel guilty about this. Even though you have an opportunity to learn more about boundaries and enforcing them, what he did was wrong. It’s not OK to start kissing someone without their permission. It’s also very easy to not know how to react in the moment. I don’t know anyone who is born knowing how to react when a stranger kisses you, and it a lot of situations that are scary or unexpected make us freeze. Most of our lives are spent learning how to be polite in public and not to ruffle feathers, so feeling comfortable shoving someone is uncommon for a young person. Just because a person doesn’t react in the perfect way in a situation and get themselves out of it doesn’t make it their fault.
I’m not sure if you actually continued making out to get experience, or if you’re telling yourself that because you feel like you’re to blame and you want to figure out a reason. What seems most likely to me is that you were shocked and didn’t know how to respond.
Someone mentioned talking to a counselor, which I think would be helpful. It doesn’t matter if there were other things you could have done in the situation. It doesn’t change that it’s a jarring experience and there are a lot of underlying issues for you that you may need to work through. (Including the racism aspect here).
There’s a spectrum when it comes to any kind of issue that a person deems a moral or ethical one. I think that forgetting that spectrum exists is what creates a lot of the arguments back and forth about things like this.
On one end are bad people. Somewhere in the middle or close to the other end are people who are generally good. They’re your decent, regular people. They make mistakes, but they don’t intend on hurting anyone or whatever. They potentially see prostitutes because they have a right to and they don’t see anything wrong with it because they aren’t cheating. This can apply to a lot of other social issues today. It’s your regular person who treats everyone with kindness, but doesn’t really think too far into the fact that they maybe unconsciously stereotype people of a different background. Or it’s the person who honks angrily at someone who cuts them off while driving because the other driver did something rude and dangerous and they have a right to be angry.
But the other end of the spectrum is a different layer. It might be a person who actively thinks about the larger implications of prostitution and what that means for the person in that job, and what it says about them to use their services. And it’s the person who also treats people with kindness, but thinks about their potential biases and tries to fix them. And the person who says, “Well, maybe the person who cut me off had a bad day.”
I’m not saying the person on that end of the spectrum is a better person, especially because so many of the issues can be subjective. But there are people who live on that end and want the person they are with to be at that end too. And that’s OK. But trying to drag a decent, good person from the middle of the spectrum to the end isn’t necessarily the right way to go about it, if their current state of being is that hurtful to you. Some people don’t care and they find that they and their partners teach each other stuff, but if it’s basically preventing you from being happy in the relationship, then you need to just go find someone who lives on your end of the spectrum.
I think this is a plus for talking on the phone. I get not wanting to lay out all your feelings, but that’s the only thing that’s going to result in you guys doing the right thing for you. If you’re scared, she needs to know that. If you’re upset or angry or calm, she needs to know that too. You guys NOT sharing your feelings is what partially got you into this situation.
Say whatever you’d like to say to her. Only you know what that is. The first post, you sounded like you wanted to get back together. The next post, you were avoiding her. Now, you are still avoiding her, but seem concerned that getting together isn’t the right thing. Whatever you’ve decided on at this point, say that.
@copa — Yeah, I thought telling him (even before all this) that I had a busy week ahead would at least help him manage his expectations in regard to seeing me or talking with me much. But I guess not.
I’m 31 also. He’s 42. I don’t really feel that he’s objectively too old, but in his case, he just bought a house and is sort of intending on settling down here. I know that I am not because it would probably be bad for my career and I potentially may want to move closer to family (not super restricted to where they live, but in a vague radius of like 4-5 hours or less). I wouldn’t rule out everyone his age, but it just feels like for him, 42 means that he’s super ready to get married and settle down in this home and live out his life here. I’m still trying to decide where I want to live and where I want my career to go. I’m also a little biased because most of my friends married guys who are around their age or a few years older or younger, so they’ve been in the same life stage most of the time. My one friend who is with someone about 10 years older got two teenage stepkids at the time (in her 20s), so it was definitely a more extreme transition for her. But I know as time goes on, I need to make sure I”m not superficially judging people’s ages if we’re a good fit otherwise.
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