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For the no spark text, I usually wait to see if they invite me out again and send some version of this: “Hey, it was great to meet you. I didn’t feel like we had the right romantic chemistry, but I wish you the best of luck!” I’ve never had anyone be rude or snippy after that. And it’s infinitely better than ghosting!
@Anonymousse and @Ale I’ve taken a lot of time to reflect, heal, and figure out what’s going on with my therapist and we’ve boiled it down to not enforcing good enough boundaries in romantic relationships and genuinely just bad luck. I’m working on my perfectionism. It’s an easy trap to just think “if I was prettier it won’t happen” than to really swallow “there’s nothing you can do to keep it from happening.”
Because I have a history of being cheated on, the insecurity is just…there on some level, always. Not dating doesn’t make that go away, it just makes me more nervous to put myself out there. It also feels like I’m letting fear control me and not let me move on with my life. That being said, I’m really not on the hunt (Tinder profile hidden and not talking to anyone). I just don’t want to hide away and be passive either?
@K If more straight men were into book clubs, theater and SoulCycle I’d probably meet some guys haha. I wish we had more decent hiking in the Midwest because that’s one Meet Up group I’d totally do, especially after knockng out the Inca Trail and feeling all pumped 🙂
Always awesome to get everyone’s perspective. Is anyone having better luck out there?
Wendy you’re killing me hahahaha. Pretty sure you’ve nailed it and we’d be swooning over the same dude! I will say, the last two guys I dated were really nice, good guys that just didn’t work out so I feel like some progress has been made. I’ve taken your advice of dating against type and it hasn’t worked out yet, but just staying open minded 🙂
@fyodor Yeah chemistry can sometimes be a cop out. I try to balance it with shared values so even if they are super attractive/we get along great it’s a no-go if those don’t vibe (e.g. genuinely kind, affectionate, family oriented, ambitious/driven in whatever career they’ve chosen, non-religious, adventurous, communicative, willing to never make me move to the suburbs haha).I’ve talked to my therapist a lot about how I spent my childhood as the mediator of my family and the person who likes to help people, so I tend to be drawn to people who need help and not cutting loose when I realize it’s not a good fit because I over empathize (I’d much rather be hurt and just deal with it than hurt someone else). I have been working on having stronger boundaries and feeling confident that I can accept and feel comfortable with someone taking care of me right back. It’s a work in progress.
Wendy – I definitely struggle with attraction in that if it’s not there pretty strong from the get go, it rarely develops for me. Last few guys I dated I thought were very good looking but a few of my friends disagreed but said they were magnetic personalities (I have a hankering for tall, lanky, vaguely ethnic men with big noses…Adrian Brody is my weird celebrity crush). I’ve dated short guys, super tall guys, guys 10 years older, guys a few yeas younger, a wide variety of ethnicities. And unfortunately, some of the less conventionally attractive men have cheated and treated me more poorly than the 9s I dated. My brother said some guys will get an ego boost dating a pretty girl and think they can suddenly pull better ones. I don’t feel “safer” dating a less attractive guy. So I go by chemistry and attraction regardless of conventional looks. Sometimes I think I just haven’t met the right person, and that’s all.
With apps and things it’s so hard because photos are one of the few things to go off of, so I’m much more picky looks wise than if I met the guy in person as was really attracted to his whole vibe. I’ve put it out there with friends that I’m very open to being set up with people they know, so hoping I meet more people that way!
@Kate My mom was the opposite—I never saw her diet, she rarely wore makeup, etc. I’m not a 10 but since college I’ve been considered pretty conventionally attractive and I’d be lying if I said being so didn’t helped me in many areas of my life (even work). I guess when you remember how differently people treated you before you were that way (basically invisible), it’s a little scary to go back to it.
Man you are soooo right about the tanning… I promised myself it was the one stupid thing I’d do (I don’t drink very often and even then it’s not much, I don’t smoke, no drugs, no unsafe sex). I actually look like a very normal color for me if I wasn’t stuck in the office all day (like normal Mexican tan haha). I just wanted one summer of tan I swear, and was planning to stop for fall.
My dermatologist would kill me. I’m 31 and I do wear sunscreen everyday, do a vitamin C serum, and started my prescription retinoid again so I have to stop for that anyway. Also considering a light peel in the winter.
@Ktfran I’ll text you the name of my dermatologist, she’s in the Loop and is fantastic. She told me no for two years before finally agreeing once I laid out my concerns and that I really didn’t want to look different, just not as tired. It’s been taking some getting used to this time…almost like always having Novocain in my forehead. Day by day I notice it less. In pictures it looks great though, completely erased the fine lines on my forehead. If you guys have any specific questions about happy to answer them.
@Kate Logically I totally agree, emotionally it is absolutely about trying to control the only thing I can. Part of it is definitely cultural…being Latina and from California there’s a lot more pressure to keep up appearances as you get older.Dating hiatus –I go on maybe one date a month, so I feel like I’m sort of already on one? I already DO focus on my friends, hobbies, travel, volunteering and work as I was never a person to let any of those go on the backburner when I was in a relationship. I’ve just always been super independent. So not dating doesn’t feel like leaving more room for my other interests (stress wise I can’t do more) it just feels like a whole section is missing since the rest of my life is totally the life I want.
Anyway thanks for letting me vent guys!!
@TheLadyE Thanks, I’m glad I’m not the only one. I am focusing on my friendships but it’s really hard when all my friends are married or in serious relationships, so I see them for happy hours, cooking, etc. every now and again but weekends everyone disappears now. And it’s not that I want to be out at bars, I just don’t want to be home alone Friday through Sunday. It gets very frustrating to be the one initiating a lot of the time (people have always seen me as the planner). My friends all assume I have a lot of friends and must have plans with someone.
@Kate: I think he sounds like a tool because she has brought up DTR 3 times, so she is very clearly wanting something more serious and he’s been putting her of on the hopes of finding something better. Sorry, but if you know the person you’re dating wants more than you want to give and would be super hurt to know you’re actively pursuing other folks, you’re probably not a good match. And I have to wonder if in those 3 DTR talks he was very explicit in saying “I’m not seeing anyone else but we’re not exclusive, I’m still open to meeting other people.” If he just said “I’m not seeing anyone else” he was saying what she wanted to hear and TECHNICALLY not lying. Anyway, I’m sure he’s not a terrible person but people that lead people on and/or aren’t totally honest when they person brings it up multiple times seem selfish.@AndSoItGoes “Hard for a White Man” I met on Tinder and had a few days worth of very nice, respectful convo so it was a big surprise. He certainly was in no way rude to me but yeah, the things he believed were…not ok.
I’m feeling really, really low. Just had a cry. Holiday weekend next weekend and I have no plans. If I had single friends or more friends in general maybe I’d feel less lonely. I seriously hate that I can’t just date people for fun or sleep with strangers…if I don’t like you a lot I can’t even fake it a little and if I do it makes me feel more hollow. So it’s like I’m totally, totally alone, or going on a bunch of first dates only.
Lately I’ve been struggling a lot with self image (my date outfits are on point though, I will post sometime!) I’ve been tanning a lot, got more Botox, calorie restricting and working out a lot in hopes of losing weight (I’m a size 4 so I’m not huge), shopping like crazy for things that are as flattering as possible. I think because I have been cheated on by several people I feel that it’s because I’m not pretty enough or perfect enough and I’m now insanely hard on myself. Everyone that has dated me tells me I’m “perfect” and they don’t know why they don’t want to be with me, and they always want to friends after because they like me as a person. So I keep thinking it’s because I’m not pretty enough. I talk to my therapist about it but it’s just not something I can shake. Anyway here’s to hoping it’s something that I can deal with. I just sort of feel like I won’t feel lovable again until I stop getting rejected.
Hope everyone else is in a better/more fun place with dating, does anyone have good Labor Day plans? I’ve got a trip to Amsterdam and Rome in 2.5 weeks to look forward to 🙂
P.S. @Kate that guy sounds like a tool!
@veritek33: So sorry to hear about your job! But hopefully you get a new job quickly an then just have that extra severance money for fun stuff :). Still a crazy stressful time so it’s awesome you are taking it out at the gym!! I’d be eating bagels.
@ktfran: Dating has been meh. Went on a date with a cop who was super nice but we could not have been less well matched if we tried. Among the things:
-He has never had even a sip of alcohol (not a dealbreaker, but a little weird to ask to meet at a bar then)
-He doesn’t curse except at work “because that’s what it takes with those people” and he literally counted how many times I had cursed over the course of the date…WTF
-Told me he’s very traditional and he’s a-ok being the breadwinner and supporting his wife (not that it matters but I almost certainly make more money than him)
-Said it’s “really hard right now to be a white man” because ALL companies ONLY want to hire minorities (…I’m a minority…and at this point I was appalled)
-That his job isn’t “fun” anymore because the media blows everything out of proportion and he “can’t really police anymore.” And thennnnnn I was ready to GTFO.The guy that I dated who dumped me after three months finally came over and helped me with some stuff around the house last night (assembling furniture, etc.) which was super nice of him to offer to do. I was plotting to try to turn this into a fun FWB hookup but I was legitimately having such a good time I didn’t want to make it awkward and be like soooooo want to make out? He’s not at all the guy to do that either so we had a weird lingering goodbye at the door and I was kicking myself after. I did send him a thank you text and said I would have invited him to stay for a bit but it was late and we were both tired anyway (with heavy winky faces). So at least I’ve floated it in general terms that I’d be open to some fun at some point. But feeling good that we’re able to be friends/friendly. I could ha ve cut the sexual tension with a knife though.
@MaterialsGirl: You wedding pics were SO GORGEOUS. Not to be a weirdo but your wedding was so my dream wedding…didn’t you go to Yosemite after? Ugh I would love that. -
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