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MissDreFebruary 19, 2017 at 11:07 am #674321
I guess we’ve sort of just settled into a friendship. We talk every single day, still. Sometimes we just text good morning and good night. Sometimes we text back and forth all day long. Sometimes we talk on the phone. Sometimes we video chat. He’s planning to come visit me next month I think. I’m likely going to visit him in Europe in either April or May (depends when I can get time off work since I’m in a new job).
saneincaFebruary 19, 2017 at 2:32 pm #674334My question to those guys who are leaving would be, why did they even start to date when they knew they were not going to stay around for long ? What were their intentions ? Were they looking for a quick hookup ?
Personally I would have thought that was a wasted effort.
Downer update on my situation with Dimples: I texted him on Saturday morning asking if he’d like to take advantage of the nice weather with me, and… crickets. So I think I’m being ghosted. I’ve been ghosted or had guys fade out before, but this time is baffling. Like a week and a half ago he was trying to schedule a date, then trying to REschedule that date, and now nothing… blah. I’m so annoyed, frustrated, and sad. Usually leading up to the fade-out, I’m the one asking for another date, NOT the guy. Our last date was SO GOOD. And what was the point of all that “oh, we’re looking for the same thing! How great!” talk if he was just going to disappear? Ugh.
I also found out that a good friend of mine, with whom I’ve had a sort of complicated friendship because there are some *feeeeelings* involved but I genuinely do not think we were suited for dating so I’ve made sure things have stayed strictly platonic, moved to another state. He did not tell me, and he didn’t say goodbye. Between this, my foster pupper, and Dimples, I’m kinda down. Hoping for some good news from last week’s interview to balance all the downer things out!
@MissDre Has your guy already moved? Would you be upset/jealous if you found out he was dating someone else? Several months ago, my sister went on a few dates with someone who told her he needed to take a break from dating because he still wasn’t over his ex, and they became friends. They text daily and hang out almost every weekend. A few weeks ago, he went dark on her and she was sad, and then told me she thought he maybe he was dating again, and didn’t I think that was shitty of him to tell her he didn’t want to date but may now be dating? And I said no, not really, you can’t expect him to never date again because a few months ago he told you he wasn’t ready. SO I think she has some feelings there that she isn’t admitting aloud, and I think their friendship is going to be unnecessarily complicated when one of them meets someone. It made me realize I don’t know that I could have the kind of friendship she (and you) seem to have.@saneinca I can’t speak for everyone, but a couple years ago I lived in a different state was actively (trying to) date. (I was not actually seeing anyone and was too messed up from a recent relationship to actually bother meeting anyone.) I was always on the lookout for new job opportunities, local and in my current city. I applied for the job I wound up moving for on a whim. I didn’t think I had a shot in hell. It worked out, though. If I’d been dating anyone at the time, it wouldn’t have meant that my intentions were dishonest. I did want a new job and knew I was open to moving, but it seemed stupid to plan my life around a job that I didn’t have.
MissDreFebruary 20, 2017 at 10:53 am #674448@Copa I’m sorry you’re being ghosted 🙁 I dunno why guys do that. I had a guy ghost me once after the last thing he said to me was “I really really like you.” So, I was baffled. It really sucks, it hurts, and I’m sorry you’re going through that. I hope you get some good news soon to cheer you up!
I would be jealous if he started dating someone else, because I’m still hoping this will be turn into something more once he gets settled (he’s leaving the country on Friday), and he knows that. And I know he likes me too, because we talk about these things. I’ve told him explicitly what I’m looking for and I’ve told him I want that with him. In response, he told me that he’s apprehensive about the distance and that he doesn’t want to rush into anything. He asked me if I would be ok with keeping things the way they are right now until we’ve had more time to see how things develop between us. I think that’s fair considering the situation, so I agreed to those terms (for now – and I’ve given this a timeline in my head).
That being said, I’m not holding out for him. If I had the opportunity to go on a date with someone else, I would. I still have my dating profile up. We’re not exclusive, and both of us have the right to date other people. So if he met someone else… yeah I would be hurt and it would suck but it’s not something I have a say in, nor does he have a say in who I date.
For now, I think we’re both just enjoying having someone to talk to everyday. We’ll likely talk about where we stand when he visits me next month, and we’ll see what happens when I visit him in Europe in April. And if things don’t work out, at least I get to see Europe with somebody cool and have a free place to stay. I’ve never travelled before, so I’m excited to take a trip!
February 20, 2017 at 11:09 am #674453To lend some insight about why a guy would fade out when he’d been so demonstrative/expressive about his positive feelings, (i.e. saying stuff like “I really like you” and “We’re so great together”): I think a lot of times, in situations like that, the guy is trying to talk himself into the relationship. Like, he recognizes that you’re a great catch and he DOES like you, and he WANTS to feel that spark, so he keeps saying outloud — to you, but really for his own benefit — that you’re awesome, you’re amazing. What you aren’t hearing is the unsaid second half of that comment: “So… why am I feeling hesitant?”
I know that doesn’t make the ghosting suck any less, and of course, it makes things confusing, because how do you know when to trust when someone is making those comments, right? In my experience — and I know this isn’t the case for everyone — when someone is making those kinds of comments early on (like within the few dates), things usually fizzle pretty fast. It’s the guys who have waited until we’ve had some time to get to know each other (like, at least a few weeks) who are most genuine with the “you’re so great” comments.
I mean, my issue with ghosting isn’t that a guy isn’t interested in me. Yeah, that part DOES suck, but it’s the disappearing act that drives me insane. Like, is that supposed to hurt my feelings LESS? In any case, I’ve never had a guy try to schedule a date, then try to re-schedule that date (I was busy), and THEN drop off the face of the planet. Usually in hindsight, I can see that the signs were all there that the guy was ready to bolt. Usually, I’m the one still expressing interest and the guy is wishy-washy about seeing me again, and that wasn’t the case this time. The stubborn part of me is hoping I’ll hear from him tomorrow telling me he was off the grid of the long weekend and is so sorry, but the realistic part of me is already moving on forward and I have a tentative date lined up for Thursday with a friend of a friend.
Also, slightly creepy, but I checked Tinder to see if Dimples unmatched me, because I have in the past learned a guy is no longer interested when he started to fade in a super roundabout way and finally “got it” when I checked Tinder and saw he’d delete me as a match. In any case, we’re still matched, but his location showed as being 20 miles away, which means he hasn’t been in the city in which we both live and work. Which means nothing, really, but because on this site there’s always speculation about whether the guy is secretly married with kids, it made me wonder if he’s secretly married with kids. Ha.
@Dre Is this guy moving back? I can’t recall. Good luck with the LDR-ish stuff.
@Copa that does suck. I’m sorry you’re having a crappy time lately. I’ll try to send some good vibes your way.
@saneinca – I can’t speak for MissDre’s guy, but what my guy told me is that he’d been searching for jobs and applying for jobs in my state for months and was confident he was going to find one and then things just didn’t work out. He made the decision to move in with his dad because his grad school stipend ran out, and his lease will as well. He’s still job searching in my state but also in other states. He has said to me that he probably had no business being on Bumble, but that he doesn’t regret meeting me and he’s glad we met. And I agree. If for no other reason than it was nice to be reminded that I could still be excited about someone and know there are good guys out there. And if his end game was a hookup, he certainly worked hard for that considering we lived 2 hours apart and only spent the night with each other twice in the 6 weeks we’ve been communicating with each other.
I spent Friday night and all day Saturday with him. He even got me a valentine’s day gift, which took me by surprise. (Nothing over the top, but it was a baseball cap with my favorite team on it and a t-shirt from his t-shirt company because I’d said that one was really cool, so he found one in my size to give to me.) We went out for dinner Friday night and then watched movies together. Saturday we went for a walk and then went to a local competition that a few of my friends had traveled for and cheered them on, and then we went out for a nice sushi lunch. I had to be back Saturday night for a previous commitment so I had to leave after the late lunch. We talked about staying in touch and he will be in my state again for a competition this spring and again this summer and we want to see each other again. I won’t sit around waiting for him, but like MissDre, I don’t see the harm in keeping him in my life in this capacity. He has taken down his dating profile since his life is up in the air right now but mine is still up. I may take it down while I adjust to a new job and I’m going to compete in the crossfit open this year, so that will keep me distracted. Either way, I’m glad I met him and that he became a part of my life, even if it was for a very brief period of time.
MissDreFebruary 20, 2017 at 12:18 pm #674461@Copa, no he’s not planning on moving back. I mean, it’s possible that he might someday since his entire family is here. But the job he accepted is a permanent position. And in his case, he didn’t know that he would be moving until a few weeks after we met.
I second what Wendy said, some people who ghost after saying that kind of things did it very early in the relationship. Maybe at the beginning it was awesome and then it got moving too fast. I’m not justifying people who ghost, it is a horrible thing to do, but saying that one has to be very careful with that kind of displays very early on in the relationship.
Also, I hate when people complain about being ghosted, but the minute said ghoster shows up again is like nothing happened.
A friend of mine had a few dates with a guy who was “great” and “awesome”, I’ve posted about her earlier here. On the second date, they were planning an entire trip together. It all sounded awesome but I kept seeing red flags everywhere. For instance calling an ex of him a “golddigger” because she was a “model” making my friend feel like crap. Also, planning a trip the second time they saw each other, WTH.
After a few dates, a trip planned, dates already lined up, the guy dissapeared from the face of the earth. He totally ghosted her. She was very sad. And then the guy reappears, like a month and a half later, telling her that he has been busy, asking her out again and acting like nothing happened. And my friend goes and buys the whole bullshit again, goes out with him again a couple times, and then, yes, he ghosts her again.
He reappeared a third time only to tell her that he wasn’t ready for a relationship and to just be friends.
So, please don’t do as my friend. I mean, it’s super rude to be ghosted and for a person to reappear as if nothing happened because said person has been “busy” (in 2017, FFS), no. Just don’t. If a person is that rude once, it is not good to keep them in your life.February 20, 2017 at 2:02 pm #674468I think it is the year of the ghost!I am kind of shocked at the pattern of ghosting and repeating dating scenarios here :S I really hope things turn up for everyone!
If anyone recalls, I wrote in about the guy who ghosted me twice back in January, well he popped up again a couple weeks ago when I was on a ski trip. He texted me as if everything that happened before never happened. He was looking to go out with me and I shut him down and had to actually explain why I wasn’t interested. He didn’t seem to think his actions were wrong, he said
(after I told him that he was only contacting me when it was convenient for him) why would he contact me if it was inconvenient? (blaming being busy for work). WOW. Yes I never would have rescheduled with him, but his blatant disregard for the entire situation was appalling. After my explanation he stopped talking to me 😛 I understand being busy with work, but falling off the face of the earth for an entire month isn’t right and then coming back hoping for redemption.I have honestly never had such terrible luck with guys until these past few months. Ghosting, rudeness, and just lack of quality guys. Gah. I am almost giving up. Had a good date though with a guy this Saturday. We went to Chapters and browsed the books and had some really good conversation. We went for a late lunch afterwards and then planned a second date at the city science centre for the following Saturday. (They have a Star Trek exhibit, so being nerds and both never been to the science centre in the city are taking advantage of the timing).
Yeah, that’s the thing. At the end of our last date, we were talking about what we were both looking for. No declarations of love or anything over-the-top were made, but we both said we were having fun getting to know one another, looking for something serious, and wanted to keep getting to know one another. He invited me over that night, but I had to decline on account of my foster dog. He asked if I had any questions, so I DID ask if he was dating anyone else because it’s something I like knowing if “nighttime fun” is on the table. He said no, and seemed surprised that I would think he was. I told him I usually assume people are seeing others until there’s a conversation about it. He said he dates one person at a time until it he knows it’s not working or won’t work. Ghosting actually did come up in this conversation, and he said he thinks it’s inappropriate because you have to be considerate of others. (And from what I saw of him, he was SUPER thoughtful about other people.) SO, I’m surprised at this — it seems out of character — and he was in touch after our last date to set up our next date, but we had scheduling conflicts. So yeah, it could be ghosting. I also haven’t totally ruled out that he could be away for the long weekend. We exchanged a couple texts in the middle of last week where he said things were “rough” so I don’t even know if something else may have happened…? (I dropped off the face of the earth with a guy for probably 1-2 weeks a little over a year ago. I had appendicitis. Could I have texted him at some point during this time? Yes. I actually had a lot of time on my hands in the hospital. Did I *feel* like it? No. I was in pain, and didn’t care. I did eventually follow up, but just saying, sometimes people DO have legit reasons.) That’s the hard part about ghosting for me. Yeah, it’s disappointing if someone doesn’t want to see you again, but not knowing what’s going on — are you over me? are you in the hospital? was one of your family members just diagnosed with stage four cancer? — drives me nuts.
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