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    June 20, 2018 at 3:21 pm #758133

    I don’t even know! Some people react super odd about it, though. Like immediately assuming I must be Asian and then asking me how I could possibly be Asian when I don’t look it. Or asking how I could possibly have survived living somewhere where I didn’t know the language fluently. (Compared to the more normal follow-up of, “What brought your family there?”) I get some super oddball questions. I think they tend to be men who haven’t experienced much outside of their hometowns. It is like my DREAM to end up with a guy who was also raised overseas.

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    June 20, 2018 at 3:23 pm #758134

    Well, when I broke up with my coworker ex I also had to leave my CrossFit gym that I loved for 4 years, so how about that?
    Moral of the story is: when you date, do not mix your WHOLE life with the other person. I had to leave my gym, and everyone advised to leave my job. He never thought of leaving either. Now I think that if I met someone I would not like them going to the same gym. Or if I dated someone from my gym, I would probably leave and find another one. And I would never ever date a coworker again.

    LadyE: I’m sending you good thoughts. I hope it all works out well. I’m totally biased though because in my case it is a living hell. My mental health took a toll from dating a coworker. You say you already have feelings for this person, but you have been on one date. So I hope you’re being much more cautious than the impression I get.

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    June 20, 2018 at 3:33 pm #758136

    Yikes! Did he go to the same gym as you the entire time or did you get him into it? I’d actually really like to share the gym with a boyfriend, but yeah, if you work together and go to the same gym, and still see one another outside of both, that’s a lot of overlap.

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    June 20, 2018 at 3:35 pm #758137

    @Copa I guess I can picture that. I work with all white people and some of them are pretty “sheltered” I guess you could say. And when I pipe up with information about other cultures (related to work projects – for example the fact that people speak Arabic and French in Lebanon) they’re like “whoooooaaaaa how did you know that?”

    And I’m like “Ummmmm because I don’t just hang out with other white people?”

    I worked with this person who kept insisting that all Muslim people are really dark. So I told her “Actually, my best friend is Muslim and she’s blonde, blue-eyed and paler than I am.”

    And she says, “Oh well then your friend must have converted or something.”

    “No… she was born and raised Muslim. Because believe it or not there are countries in Europe with a majority Muslim population. And, GASP, some of those people are white.”

    And then my colleague just looked at me like I was crazy.

    Anyway, obviously that has nothing to do with dating. You just reminded me of how I’m sometimes really surprised by people’s ignorance.

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    June 20, 2018 at 3:48 pm #758142

    He insisted on going, he wanted to go with me and he wanted to do CrossFit, we had been dating for two years. We went together, it was nice at first, then I was “X’s girlfriend” and not Ale. Then we broke up, and it sucked. When I asked him to leave the gym because I was there first, he said that was not an option. I was lucky to find another gym closer and nice, I’ve been there for a year, but I had to stop doing CrossFit. So I guess maybe if I dated someone and he wanted to go to the same gym I’d ask what if we breakup? Ok if we break up, you get the gym. We never discussed that. It would have been helpful.

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    June 20, 2018 at 3:52 pm #758143

    Yeah. I mean, I guess I just prefer people who are curious about the world around them. This is a sweeping generalization, and I realize my own privilege in growing up how I did, but the men I’ve met who have barely known anything outside of their hometowns seldom seem as interested in life that’s different from what they’re accustomed to. One of my exes, for example, had seldom left our state, never left the country, and was basically terrified of travel. He once told me he didn’t think he could “handle” even just *visiting* London. Around the same time, the company I was at had an exchange-type program for employees with three years of experience or less and everyone who met the criteria was encouraged to apply. So I did. You could pick from offices all over the world to work for I think maybe four weeks. One coworker refused because she’d “miss home too much.” And, I dunno, I think it’s a bit weird to be that put-off by something that’s different from you. I’ve had dairy in the fridge longer than that exchange lasted.

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    June 20, 2018 at 4:05 pm #758146

    @Ale, I’m really sorry that your situation sucked and your ex treated you horribly. I remember you telling us about that and it was atrocious.

    I do want to emphasize that I’m being extremely careful, realistic, and trying to maintain low expectations about all this. That’s why I didn’t say anything about it for a week and wasn’t actually planning to. I wouldn’t even say we went on a date, though I do get the sense that we both “like” each other. And it was just one dinner. I get that, I really do. I know it’s dangerous to date where you work and I’ve never even considered it before. I would not have considered it at any other company or in any other situation. As it is, our work only very rarely overlaps (practically never) as we’ve both moved onto different teams/reporting structures since we met in January. I actually never see him unless he seeks me out or vice versa. I have and will continue to think about it and take precautions. All I’m saying is that I’ve literally been mourning the end of my last relationship for months, with the help of an excellent therapist, and this is the first time I’ve felt something for someone else and it’s nice. I’m going to enjoy it while being realistic and also prioritizing maturity and the career I’ve been working hard on for a long time. 🙂

    @Copa, it’s so interesting and resonates so much with me when you talk about wanting to find a man who has lived abroad. I wasn’t raised abroad but I lived abroad for several years during college/grad school and meeting a man who has AT LEAST traveled abroad, and ideally actually lived abroad like I did, is on my “would be really REALLY nice to have” list. I find (as does my best friend’s twin sister who lived abroad for years) that the difference in maturity, both emotional and otherwise, and worldview is stunning.

    For example, right now I am in some extremely frustrating and disheartening conversations with a guy friend of mine who has never left the country. He is a gun lover and subscribes to this sort of blind patriotism that is, frankly, just ignorant. He claims to be “in the middle” of politics but he’s definitely right-leaning. It is ENRAGING to try to have conversations with him about the migrant children crisis because he just does NOT get it and cannot muster up the empathy. He is a college educated professional man in his 30s with a 3 year old daughter, but this is just too much of a stretch and the underlying poisonous patriotism and white privilege has blinded him. I really believe if he had spent any time living abroad that would help, but not now. The ironic thing is we met at work (he was the closest thing I’ve ever come to dating at work, lol) and we had a “spark” for awhile but it never materialized into dating, and now I know FOR SURE if we had gotten married I would be MISERABLE (or asking for a separation) because of his lack of empathy and critical thinking abilities that have only come out because of this (and other) issue(s) in the last year or so. Tl; dr: Living abroad is priceless.

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    June 20, 2018 at 4:13 pm #758148

    Why did you have to change gyms?

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    June 20, 2018 at 4:17 pm #758150

    @Ale If I introduced some guy to my gym and he wouldn’t leave when asked after our break-up, I’d be upset. My gym is small even for a Crossfit gym — our classes are capped at 14 and are often way smaller. It was your gym first! I actually told my neighbor to join my gym in one of our first conversations when I learned we both like Crossfit, and I’m really glad he’s been too busy getting drunk at work to find a box in the city because I’m positive mine would be a contender for its location and super reasonable prices.

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    June 20, 2018 at 4:56 pm #758152

    @TheLadyE>.. well. I’m married to a coworker. Actually, douchebag exhusband of MG was a coworker, but he left after two years dating and so that was the only portion of our relationship that overlapped. (but i was young and one of the times we broke up or whatever it was rough.. but whatever)

    I think it helps we limit our interaction and are extremely professional when we do interact. We have responsibilities that overlap but the bigger struggle is NOT to talk about work all the time when we are at home. I say, proceed with caution, it certainly can work out horribly, but it could work out just fine too 🙂

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    June 20, 2018 at 5:38 pm #758156

    Yeah, my sister is married to a coworker too. It worked out fine for them.
    I had to change gyms because he was there too. It was too much seeing him at work and then at the gym. He wouldn’t change because he had a huge discount and the location was good (I paid full price). I asked him to leave knowing that he wouldn’t afford another box. So he told me please to reconsider, because that wasn’t an option for him. I stayed for a couple more weeks and then left when the environment became too toxic for me. People were invested in our drama, even telling me things about him.
    He no longer goes there because they stopped giving him a discount. That gym is super small too, but managing is just awful.

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    Jimmyjam
    June 20, 2018 at 5:49 pm #758157

    So men don’t do Panera as a first date, much less split a smoothies

    Lol CrossFit …Didn’t that fad die out five years ago.

    Don’t date coworkers.

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