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TheLadyEOctober 21, 2015 at 9:07 am #389067
Thank you everyone for your support! I’m glad we were able to talk about it, too. When he was texting me that he was scared I legit thought I would never hear from him again despite how interested he seemed before, but then he called. 🙂
I asked him things like “Are you not attracted to me?” or “Are you not over your ex? Are you not ready to date someone else?” and he said he was definitely attracted to me and felt nothing for or about his ex anymore. He said he decided to date again because he felt like he was absolutely ready.
His ex-fiancee was really awful to him so I understand him being scared initially, but I’m pretty proud of myself for saying something instead of waiting forever and feeling bad about myself, heh. He was the one who asked me to go hiking and said he really likes me.
The other thing that I haven’t shared is that he had to have jaw surgery when he was in his early 20s and it damaged some nerves in his mouth…and since then he hasn’t been able to feel his lips or the area around his mouth about where a goatee would be. As in, he will bite the inside of his mouth and not feel it until he tastes the blood (at least he can feel/taste things with his tongue), and he can’t feel when there is food on his face so he’s super self-conscious about it. He didn’t start dating until he was 25 so that means he has never actually felt a kiss…ever…not in the way we do who can feel our mouths. 🙁 He told me all this on our 2nd date. Last night I said “I assumed you were telling me that so I would know when the time comes…” and he said I was right. It’s never stopped him in the past, he said.
My assumption is he is planning on kissing me on our hike. I will not kiss him first…especially in light of this conversation! But I’ve put my needs out there so he knows. That’s good I think.
And also I told him exactly that, @Regina Chapman – that there’s no way we could determine if we would be compatible fully unless we kiss and are physically affectionate. He agreed with that too.
@mucha, I’m sorry you’re feeling neglected. 🙁 At least you know it will hopefully pass soon…right? It’s just temporary?
@ktfran – Good for you for communicating! It is really scary. I think it’s good you were able to share and have an open dialogue with him. 🙂kareOctober 21, 2015 at 9:12 am #389068That’s how it works @MissDre. Take a break from dating and everyone comes out of the woodwork.
@LadyE, it’s good you were hones, but I would be a bit turned off by his “whoa” reaction. I feel like at the beginning those sort of things should just fall into place naturally without being a discussion. Hopefully he is just shy, but I’d make a mental note of it either way.
@MissDre, tell us about it. Here is as good as place as any.
@mucha, I agree with Ver. That feeling totally sucks. I’m also with Ver in that is there anything small he can do during the say or evenings that would help ease your uneasy feelings over this? A note? A few extra texts? A phone call? Eating lunch or grabbing coffee during the week? I’ll try to think of other suggestions, but I thought of those right off the top of my head.
Canceling plans is the worst. I don’t do it hardly ever and if I do, it’s for a really good reason, suck as illness or work or an emergency. It’s not to do laundry.
Besides Monday, I still have really good feelings about him. There might be slight feelings of love. He was really receptive to me talking about how I was upset. He said he felt really bad and after he declined, he realized his mistake. We have been spending a lot of time together, and I told him I didn’t need to see him all the time, but when we have solid plans, barring the things mentioned above, I don’t like being canceled on. It upsets me when friends cancel too, so it’s not just him. Anyway, things are progressing nicely.
@TheLadyE- I know I’m randomly jumping into this thread to say I had the same surgery Lion Tamer has and had some residual nerve damage, which means I can get a cavity filled with no anesthetic because I don’t feel much and walk around with lunch on my face without knowing it. However, that doesn’t really have any effect on kissing my husband. The feeling itself is a bit different, but kissing is a lot about emotions and feelings and I still enjoy it. So, I will say as someone that has gone through it, that he’s overthinking this a bit much, maybe because he didn’t have any kissing experience before the surgery. Hopefully the date and kiss go wonderfully! Good luck!
MissDreOctober 21, 2015 at 9:26 am #389085Hope you get your kiss, LadyE!
I did decide to say yes. We are grabbing a drink together on Friday. I thought about it seriously though. I mean, I’m supposed to be taking a break right?! But at the same time, I don’t want to close myself off to the rest of the world. So, I’ll meet up with him on Friday and just see how it goes. No expectations, no pressure.
Btw you guys… I flew a friggin plane last weekend! (and I was terrified)
Regina ChapmanOctober 21, 2015 at 9:26 am #389086Mucha I can soooooooo relate. The Dude is involved in a huge writing project – an 8 episode TV series – and on top of that he’s wrapping up work for his freelance job (which he quit because he can’t do both).
He has worked really hard for this and I couldn’t be more proud. Before he started, we talked about what this would mean for us and if I was okay with it (he was scared about quitting the steadier job) and I said I support him all the way and would make my needs secondary to his for the duration of the process (4 months).
In spite of all that, we’ve been in three HUGE fights in the first month. Basically I’d ask him to do something, he said okay even though he meant no, he wouldn’t do it, I called him on it, and he would blow up. And I’d end up feeling needy, and he’d end up feeling guilty.
So I told him I expected him to be an adult and just tell me if he couldn’t do stuff. He said ‘I understand, this is a shortcoming on my end right now, but I’m so stressed I can’t clearly tell you no (something he’s always had a problem with).’
On my end, I realized I was being kind of childish, too, because I said I’d let things slide but I didn’t let them slide.So we talked it out and made some decisions that work for both of us:
– date night once a week (he doesn’t even get weekends right now)
– we’ve hired help for house cleaning
– I won’t ask him for stuff that I can reasonably predict will stress him out
– I made the commitment to support him through those months, so I’ll truly let stuff go, not just say I will.Up to now it’s been working!
I think you guys need to have a similar conversation and figure out where what both of you need meets the minimum of what the other can contribute at this point. And then make a solid plan and stick to it.
I will add, this only works in a fairly balanced relationship. He’s had my back more times than I can count, so that makes it a lot easier.
Hope this helps!
TheLadyEOctober 21, 2015 at 9:34 am #389089@mandalee Thanks so much for your input! I admit it made me really bummed out when I found out about his nerve damage, and he’s pretty socially awkward/kind of shy and has limited experience dating anyway so that doesn’t help. But we are very compatible and I think we’re both a little scared because of how potentially well this could go. I’m so glad to hear it didn’t affect your feelings when kissing your husband! I can only hope for the best.
And @Regina Chapman, I am taking your advice for @mucha just in general as relationship advice because it’s really good. 🙂 And congrats to The Dude on his TV series, that’s AWESOME.
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