I used my older sibling’s test to study and now my friends are calling me a chea

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  • December 26, 2018 at 4:05 pm #813246

    Someone else’s carelessness does not make it ok to cheat or steal.

    I went to the ATM a few months back, and there was over $100 sticking out of it, that someone forgot to take. Is that now my money? Is taking it not stealing because they were careless? Their receipt was with it too, and this person only had like $40 left in their account. I gave the money to the manager. Someone actually stole MY money a while ago that I had forgotten to take. It wasn’t their money, and they should have done what I did and brought it to the manager’s attention.

    The teacher being bad at his or her job doesn’t make it ok for kids to copy and memorize test answers.

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    abby
    December 28, 2018 at 1:53 pm #813501

    Sounds like your friends are jealous you’re doing better than them in the class or they’re just dumb. Who cares? It’s the teachers fault they don’t change the tests AND allow students to keep the tests (like LMAO dumb teachers). I wouldn’t classify this as cheating, work smart, not hard, remember that.

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    ele4phant
    December 28, 2018 at 2:00 pm #813506

    Sounds like your friends are jealous you’re doing better than them in the class or they’re just dumb.

    Or they have integrity and good character. OP offered them the tests, they said no, so clearly its not an issue of jealousy.

    work smart, not hard, remember that.

    If she’s not actually learning the material because she’s taking shortcuts, that’s not working hard. This may ultimately hurt OP if next year she finds herself in a class she’s not prepared for and she can’t cheat again.

    Also, fucking over the system to get ahead might work until it doesn’t. She may get away with it this year. She may get away with it her whole academic career. But if she learns the habit of taking the easy route and lying to cover her ass, she may find herself in much more serious trouble when she say, fucks over a client and gets caught.

    If this materials isn’t hard as she claims, she doesn’t need to look up the answers ahead of time, just take the test on her own merit.

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    abby
    December 28, 2018 at 2:05 pm #813508

    From the sounds of it she’s in high school, I finished high school with a 4.0 with her friends mentality. I went to university and realized there’s way too much work and taking help from people who offer it is necessary.

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    ele4phant
    December 28, 2018 at 2:15 pm #813512

    She’s in middle school, not high school. She’s in Algebra class.

    And there’s a difference between using officially sanctioned resources and working collaboratively to study and grasp material than short-circuiting your learning by looking up answers ahead of time. None of us does things alone, but you still have to put in some effort on your own to actually absorb the materials.

    It’s not working smart to have the answers ahead of time, it’s just not.

    And pst – nobody gives a shit about your college GPA. They’re going to care about your intelligence and ability to do the work you’re hired to do. If you undercut yourself but cheated to get a 4.0 in college, that’s not going to take you very far in the work world.

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    abby
    December 28, 2018 at 2:18 pm #813513

    I’m in law school now so my GPA clearly got me somewhere. Xoxo

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    ele4phant
    December 28, 2018 at 2:20 pm #813514

    (Insert joke about lawyers having no ethics)

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    December 28, 2018 at 2:25 pm #813516

    Lol, that’s a ginsburn!!!

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    PDX816
    December 28, 2018 at 2:28 pm #813518

    yeah, this is cheating and I am really surprised there are grown ass adults telling this girl it isn’t. yes, the teacher has some culpability, but she is choosing to use the tests and not come clean. Her friends aren’t jealous they are pissed someone is cheating and bragging about it. it will come back to bite the LW, because middle school girls are vicious.

    and special note to abby, as someone who has spent 10 plus years working with attorneys, shame on you. you’re actions are the reason why I have to defend the amazing people I work for, because shitty, unethical attorneys give all of them a bad name.

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    December 28, 2018 at 2:41 pm #813523

    She’s not an attorney yet…. But according to her, all she needs is a good GPA to get ahead in life so she’ll have no problem.

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    ele4phant
    December 28, 2018 at 2:49 pm #813525

    Honestly, she’ll probably be a great lawyer. Seems like she has the right attitude (PDX816 – I kid, I kid! Sort of).

    I work in political consulting, another industry that doesn’t necessarily have the best reputation when it comes to morality. HOWEVER, in my actual experience, there are some people who expect to slide through, and things can work out for them for awhile but then they can blow up in their faces, sometimes in a very public and embarrassing way (and sometimes also with legal repercussions!). Like, lives can be ruined. And it only takes getting caught once. I personally don’t think being a shit-bag is worth the risk, and honestly most people do have integrity in this industry, you can be successful and ethical.

    I’ve also found people that have been very successful academically or that have great looking credentials on paper, but they’ve taken a bunch of shortcuts so they don’t actually have what it takes when it comes down to it, and they get stripped out right quick. When it comes down to it, if you aren’t smart and capable I don’t care what sort of fancy degree you have from a fancy institution.

    If you can’t back it up, if you haven’t actually put in the work, you’re gonna fail.

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    PDX816
    December 28, 2018 at 3:02 pm #813526

    ele4phant – I totally agree. and honestly, ethics is HUGE in the law field. So she might have a rude awakening.

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