Kate
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True, Ele4phant, there are lots of troubled folks even in my immediate neighborhood near the T stop. People with mental health problems, using drugs, etc. and I’ve seen people having an episode and screaming. Someone like this woman is certainly not always going to be aggressive/angry. It sounds like she was friendly up until she lost her shit at 1am.
The thing is, LW, you unfortunately put her in that position to be having an episode and cursing at people. As good as your intentions were, you put her in that place, without her dog, where she flipped out.
It’s so simple to just text her and ask if she’s okay and would she like her dog back. She’s a human being.
Are you okay? A shelter is not going to track down a random person whose contact info you give them.
Please do not continue to try to help people in a personal capacity. Satisfy that urge by working with an organization that has procedures you can follow.
You’re doing the wrong thing by keeping her dog and refusing to get in touch with her. Seriously. But if you insist, and you don’t want to keep the dog, then call around until you find a shelter that can take a highly adoptable small puppy. This is NOT like surrendering a pit bull, there are people waiting in line for dogs like this. You tried one shelter. Please get it together and do something that’s at least good for the dog.
Just call her and offer her dog back and to meet in a public place. Done. If she says no, then you no longer need to question if you’ve done the right thing. You no longer worry about her kicking your ass because you are not holding onto her dog. You’re good.
You do have someone else to call. HER. And why would you be afraid of someone who thought you were a friend? This story’s getting cuckoo.
A 6-month old small breed puppy would 100% get adopted, but you should still let her know what’s up. This thing about kicking your ass sounds ridiculous, but it’s more likely to happen if you keep her dog than if you give it back, no?
Oh so you gave her your address too?
Would she have been in that situation with the police if the LW hadn’t intervened?
I think, sure, offer someone a meal and maybe a train fare or something, but cash and hotel rooms could actually put them at added risk.
I think they should make a good-faith effort to contact the woman and give her back her dog, yes. Pets are actually personal property. We’re not hearing evidence of the dog being abused. We don’t know what’s going on with this woman, or if she has stable family who can care for the dog. We don’t know if the dog provides emotional support that she needs, or has medical issues or what. Whether it’s her kid, her bike, or her pet, no one has the right to just take it from her and keep it.
Ok, even with the clarification I think it’s morally questionable to keep the dog, and wrong to have taken it in the first place (under these circumstances), as well as wrong to give cash to someone acting erratically and like they may be on something.
Ok so what are you asking? Are you open to feedback or no?
You did a really dumb and questionable thing, and yeah, it’s not okay to take somebody’s pet for yourself without their consent. She didn’t really consent to you buying the dog. You got involved and forced a bunch of stuff on her. You should probably contact the police and see what you can do to get the dog back to her.
Yeah, CDC tracks hospitalizations and deaths, but lots of states track positive cases. So we have data on both.
I believe the vaccine is effective, meaning it’s extremely rare for a vaccinated person who’s not otherwise vulnerable to get severely ill, and I think if everyone got vaccinated we would not have these dangerous mutations. They obviously started in unvaccinated people, every single variant. I do think these new mandates are going to be effective. At the end of the day, most people live paycheck to paycheck and aren’t going to quit their jobs if they know most companies are going to mandate vaccines or testing. This should help protect kids too.
