Covid Support Thread
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I guess that I understood the whole idea behind a “peak” to be:
1.During some period of time each sick person is infecting more than one person during their time of infectiousness so that the daily cases are increasing (left side of peak)
2. Then the number of daily cases stops increasing and starts decreasing because of interventions that keep people from infecting each other (lockdowns, masks, distancing). So, because everyone is locked indoors each sick person is infecting less than one new person and the number of new daily cases decreases gradually (right side of peak)
3. The transition from 1-2 is your peak
I’m not trying to be contrarian or anything-I really just don’t understand why they’d project a “peak” for some place that’s been going up for the last two months. What do they expect to happen in June to reduce the level of infection transmission that didn’t happen in April or May?
I am sure I’ll be pretty quick to go back to my salon, whenever it reopens. A friend in another state just texted me that she had her hairdresser come over to cut and color her hair and they did it in the backyard. They both wore masks. She said she felt like a terrible person for doing it and her text read like a guilty confession but… eh, I’m actually not judging her for it. I think I’d actually feel more comfortable with a backyard haircut than a salon experience.
Kate, the NYtimes has a good case tracker that shows MA down quite a bit from their peak but still at a pretty high daily level of infections.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/massachusetts-coronavirus-cases.html
Totally understand what you’re saying @Fyodor. I don’t know exactly how we’re projecting when the peak will hit and I really don’t know what’s changing month to month. We’re social distancing. That’s it. It seems like it will last indefinitely.
My hair stylist messaged me a couple of weeks ago, back when we thought we’d begin to reopen in June. I’m on their priority list for when we do reopen. That made me extremely happy!! I’ll go. I trust my salon to take appropriate measures.
@Copa, I think riding a bike now is a lot different than riding a bike during a normal day pre-Covid/shelter in place. Even during rush hour, you’re safer now.
Full disclosure, my single friend who lives alone biked to our place on Saturday and we sat, apart from one another, on my roof for a long while. Maybe I’m also one of the a holes. I was the first person she saw since March. And vice versa.
The husband and I have a very short list of people we will see in situations like that. It’s unsustainable otherwise. Especially for people like my friend who is by herself. But we also decided we won’t try a social distanced visit for a minimum of two weeks.
I think they can lose their license if they get caught doing someone’s hair though, even at home.
There’s a salon down the street where I occasionally walk by with the dog and see the owner in the dark doing some client’s hair. So I looked up the rules and they are definitely not supposed to be doing hair one on one until restrictions lift. But I understand why they would.
@ktfran I’ve seen my sister a few times during this. I think literally three times. Once was pretty early on, she sewed masks and wanted to make sure she and my boyfriend had some. Once for her bday about a month ago. Once last weekend. Honestly? I don’t feel bad about it. We keep things socially distant and outdoors in my boyfriend’s backyard. And maybe I’m just making excuses for myself, but I think there’s a difference between seeing my sister once every few weeks in a socially distant way and the group walkers I see, or the people still throwing parties or playing group sports in off-limits areas, or the people who flocked by the hundreds to off-limit parks a few weekends ago to catch some sun.
Sometimes when I’m out walking or jogging I see two people sitting on opposite ends of a park bench chatting and I tend to assume one or both lives alone and they’re doing their best but are trying not to crack. I’ve assumed the same about my boyfriend’s neighbor who is a single woman and I’d guess around 40 — from time to time she’ll have one friend over and they’ll sit in the backyard catching up.
Even spending most of my time with my boyfriend I still have days where I feel like I want to cry all day (and there have been days where I’ve done exactly that).
@Copa, same. Even with the husband. Some days are really hard. Two Saturday’s ago, I went in the bathroom, closed the door so the husband couldn’t see me and silently sobbed.
Yeah the peak thing irritates me too. It was fine in the beginning where we were encouraging everyone to hunker down and not let this overwhelm our hospitals, but we’re on a ‘gradual incline’ with very strict measures in place. AND they took down the emergency hospital at McCormick. So if this “peak” is supposed to happen in June (or whenever..) why take all that down? If anything, it’s showing that we were a) successful in containing an outbreak that would overwhelm our systems and… that’s it. Our testing is increasing (good thing.. yesterday was 30,000, we’ll see in an hour what it was today) and the positivity rates are hovering below 15% which is trending lower than a few weeks ago. I just think he needs to use some different rhetoric because saying we won’t peak til June is just.. disheartening and like Fyodor said, we’re not doing anything different than a month ago. In reality, we will be living with similar rates for awhile. So, no peak (unless they reopened everything tomorrow which they will not do).
update: today’s positive percent level is 9.5%. 7 day rolling average is 17%
@ktfran and @copa: we actually went and looked at a house (empty) yesterday. My friend is our realtor and despite being completely masked/gloved up and large distances away.. GOSH it was so nice to see (half) a friendly face.
Radiostar went to a friend’s backyard a few weeks ago for a distanced “dudes” hangout. He came back with some sun and a much sunnier disposition. I haven’t had a chance to do anything like that.. i ran past a friend’s townhouse and waved at her, but that’s about it. Mostly just phone calls. I feel on the verge of tears but it just hasnt happened yet. I dunno if i would feel better or not?
I’ve done a couple stoop visits where friends sit on their top step (of a Brooklyn brownstone stoop) and I sit or stand near the bottom step and we chat for a few minutes. I’ve had a few friends ask if we can have a socially distant hang soon (not sure what that would entail – maybe sitting six+ feet apart in the park or something) and if it were just adults I’d probably consider it but we all have kids and I just don’t feel comfortable including kids – I don’t trust that they can play without getting close – and I feel bad excluding them when they really need the social interaction even more. We’re on a pretty steep decline from our peak, but still too many cases for me to take more risks than our current behavior. Maybe in a couple more weeks I’ll feel different.
Yeah, my boyfriend was in such a good mood after a golf outing with his buddies a weekend or two ago. He got to see three of his best friends face to face and catch up. I haven’t had the opportunity to do anything like that yet.
This week has felt so emotionally draining for me. I’m having so many issues with WFH (internet issues, software issues that IT can’t resolve, VPN issues) and I’m so frustrated. Like I’m slower at what I do when I work remote (my big extra screens at the office were so helpful!), but right now I’m also busy at work and feel like my time crunch leading up to a deadline is getting tighter and tighter because nothing seems to be working right.
